THERE IS NO DE FACTO BAPTISM OF DESIRE THAT WE KNOW OF-Fr. Masimilliano dei Gaspari F. I

THERE IS NO DE FACTO BAPTISM OF DESIRE THAT WE KNOW OF


-Fr. Masimilliano dei Gaspari F. I

There is no de facto baptism of desire. Baptism of desire always has to be de jure.

This was observed by Fr. Masimilliano dei Gaspari F.I who gets his religious name from St. Maximillian Kolbe, who also has similar views on this subject.

Fr. Masimilliano, an Italian priest of the religious community Franciscan Friars of the Immaculate, observed that there is no case of baptism of desire that one can judge, nor can one say that any one in particular has genuine invincible ignorance.”It is always a probability”, he observed. It is a probability, a possibility.

It may be mentioned that we cannot say that there are de facto 10 cases of baptism of desire in Rome. Neither can we say de jure that there are 10 cases of baptism of desire in Rome. Since we can only talk in terms of a concept.

Implicit faith (baptism of desire, invincible ignorance) is always only a concept. We accept it in principle (de jure).

De facto the Church tells us (in the dogma extra ecclesiam nulla salus,Vatican Council II, Ad Gentes 7, and the Catechism of the Catholic Church 836 ) that everyone without exception needs to enter the Catholic Church to avoid Hell. Since with Original Sin human beings have lost the supernatural state which Adam and Eve enjoyed in Paradise who could have lived on without dieing if they were not disobedient. This state of grace is restored through the baptism of water and Catholic Faith.It has been created and won for us by Jesus Christ through His Death and Resurrection.

Those who know about this truth  and yet do not enter the Catholic Church are definitely on the way to Hell at the time of death.Other non Catholics are also on the way to Hell however there is a possibility that some of them could have implicit faith and so God will arrange for them to be baptized or send someone to teach them what they should do before they die. In many cases people have returned from death to be baptized by saints and then they return to the next life. This is the mercy of God.

Father Masimilliano dei Gaspari F.I said everyone with no exception needs to de facto enter the Catholic Church for salvation. I was speaking with him (April 25, 2010)  the morning before he celebrated Holy Mass in Latin at the Church of the Annunziata, Lungotevere, Rome.He was not present today.

"Would you agree that everyone with no exception de facto needs to enter the Catholic Church for salvation while there is a possibility in principle, de jure, that in certain circumstances those with implicit faith (baptism of desire, invincible ignorance etc) can be saved and it would be known only to God?"

"Yes. I agree ", he said in Italian. He also speaks English.

The ex cathedra dogma extra ecclesiam nulla salus says everyone with no exception needs to be a visible member of the Catholic Church to be saved (from Hell).

The three popes and Councils which gave Catholics this infallible teaching were aware of invincible ignorance and the baptism of desire (implicit faith).It was NOT mentioned for the FIRST TIME in Vatican Council II.Fr. Masimiliano dei Gaspari agreed.

The popes interpreted implicit faith NOT as de facto salvation. Fr. Masimilliano dei Gaspari agreed.

We cannot judge de facto who has a genuine baptism of desire. He agreed.

So if we interpret implicit faith in Vatican Council II (LG 16) as referring to de facto salvation it would be a heresy. It would contradict the ex cathedra teaching outside the Church there is no salvation. It would also contradict Vatican Council II (Ad Gentes 7) and the Catechism of the Catholic Church (836) which state 'all' need to enter the Catholic Church for salvation.

There has been much confusion caused on this subject by theologians like Fr. Hans Kung who have interpreted Lumen Gentium 16 (invincible ignorance etc) as referring to  de facto salvation. It would wrongly mean that Vatican Council II is opposed to the ex cathedra dogma extra ecclesiam nulla salus which for centuries said everyone with no exception needs to be a visible member of the Catholic Church to avoid Hell. It would also mean that the three popes and Councils which gave us this infallible teaching were wrong and that the dogma was only pre-Vatican Council II-thus indicating that those popes were not infallible ex cathedra. It also wrongly suggested that there was no reference to implicit faith (baptism of desire etc) in the Letter of the Holy Office 1949 (years before Vatican Council II)  to the Archbishop of Boston relative to Fr. Leonard Feeney. The Letter during the pontificate of Pope Pius XII referred to ‘the dogma’ and the ‘infallible' teaching.

The secular media has also been falsely claiming that Fr. Leonard Feeney was excommunicated for heresy instead of discipline. Communities founded by Fr. leonard Feeney state  that the excommunication against Fr. Feeney was not mentioned in the Acta Apostolica Sedis and the entry in the Denzinger-Enchridion was made by Karl Rahner and Jacques Dupuis S.J, the latter who himself was checked by the Congregation for the Doctrine of the Faith, with a Notification issued by Cardinal Ratzinger.The Denzinger entry was made from the Ecclesiastical Review!

Also the Letter of the Holy Office was based on information given by Cardinal Richard Cushing , the Archbishop of Boston who never affirmed the dogma in public.Neither did he issue a clarification when the secular newspapers in Boston and Massachusetts reported that the Catholic Church has changed its teaching on outside the Church no salvation.

Fr.Masimilliano dei Gaspari is clarifying that Vatican Council II and the Catechism of the Catholic Church are not opposed to the dogma outside the Church there is no salvation and that ex cathedra the popes remain infallible.He is also saying that implciit faith was not mentioned for the first time in Vatican Council II as Fr.Hans Kung and the secular newspapers have been repeating over the years.