Wednesday, August 10, 2011

CATHOLIC PRIESTS IN ROME AGREE WITH FR.LEONARD FEENEY: THERE IS NO BAPTISM OF DESIRE THAT WE CAN KNOW OF


The Latin phrase Extra Ecclesiam nulla salus means: "Outside the Church there is no salvation". The most recent Catholic Catechism interpreted this to mean that "all salvation comes from Christ the Head through the Church which is his Body."-Wikipedia

The Catechism CCC 846 also said all need to enter the Church as through a door. Extra ecclesiam nulla salus!


The Roman Catholic Church also teaches that the doctrine does not mean that everyone who is not visibly within the Church is necessarily damned.-Wikipedia
The Dogma Cantate Domino, Council of Florence says everyone who is not visibly in the Church is damned.

Here is Cantate Domino from Wikipedia itself.

Pope Eugene IV, Cantate Domino (1441): "The most Holy Roman Church firmly believes, professes and preaches that none of those existing outside the Catholic Church, not only pagans, but also Jews and heretics and schismatics, can have a share in life eternal; but that they will go into the "eternal fire which was prepared for the devil and his angels" (Matthew 25:41), unless before death they are joined with Her; and that so important is the unity of this ecclesiastical body that only those remaining within this unity can profit by the sacraments of the Church unto salvation, and they alone can receive an eternal recompense for their fasts, their almsgivings, their other works of Christian piety and the duties of a Christian soldier. No one, let his almsgiving be as great as it may, no one, even if he pour out his blood for the Name of Christ, can be saved, unless he remain within the bosom and the unity of the Catholic Church."-Wikipedia, extra ecclesiam nulla salus (Emphasis added)
So acording to the dogma every non Catholic needs to be a visible member of the Catholic Church for salvation.

The dogma says every one needs to enter the Church while Wikipedia suggests the opposite.

Here is another error of the secular media.

This affirmation is not aimed at those who, through no fault of their own, do not know Christ and His Church:

"Those who, through no fault of their own, do not know the Gospel of Christ or his Church, but who nevertheless seek God with a sincere heart, and, moved by grace, try in their actions to do his will as they know it through the dictates of their conscience — those too may achieve eternal salvation" (Second Vatican Council, Lumen Gentium, 16).-Wikipedia
Wikipedia implies that 'those who, through no fault of their own, do not know the Gospel of Christ or his Church...' can be saved and so they are exceptions to the 'rigorist interpretation' of the dogma.

Here are Catholic priests in Rome who say we do not know any case of someone saved in invincible ignorance or the baptism of desire. So how can it contradict Cantate Domino and the centuries old teaching that every one needs to be a visible member of the Catholic Church for salvation.
 
WE DO NOT KNOW ANYONE SAVED WITH THE BAPTISM OF DESIRE OR INVINCIBLE IGNORANCE SO EVERYONE NEEDS TO ENTER THE CHURCH AS DON BOSCO TAUGHT- Salesian Rector and Parish priest in Rome

WE DONT KNOW ANYONE IN PARTICULAR SAVED BY THE BAPTISM OF DESIRE, BY JESUS AND THE CHURCH-Fr. Brian Crawford OSJ

VATICAN COUNCIL II AFFIRMS CANTATE DOMINO, COUNCIL OF FLORENCE ON EXTRA ECCLESIAM NULLA SALUS- Fr. Davide Carbonaro

Its a mortal sin to deny the dogma extra ecclesiam nulla salus. It is a sacrilege to receive the Eucharist in this condition- Fr. Gabrielle, priest of the Franciscan Friars of the Immaculate

THERE IS NO BAPTISM OF DESIRE THAT WE CAN KNOW OF- Fr.George Puthoor

THERE IS NO DE FACTO BAPTISM OF DESIRE THAT WE KNOW OF-Fr. Masimilliano dei Gaspari F. I

EVERYBODY NEEDS THE EUCHARIST TO GO TO HEAVEN - Fr.Marcos Renacia, Augustinian Recollect priest

MONS.IGNACIO BARREIRO CARAMBULA, INTERIM PRESIDENT,HUMAN LIFE INTERNATIONAL,USA SAYS "We don't know any case of the baptism of desire or invincible ignorance.Only Jesus can judge"

FR.TULLIO ROTONDO AFFIRMS CANTATE DOMINO, COUNCIL OF FLORENCE ON EXTRA ECCLESIAM NULLA SALUS

Then Wikipedia suggests that Fr.Leonard Feeney made an error regarding the baptism of desire and blood. 
Father Leonard Feeney (b. Lynn, Massachusetts February 18, 1897 - d. Ayer, Massachusetts January 30, 1978 )[1] was a U.S. Jesuit priest who defended the strict interpretation of the Roman Catholic doctrine, extra Ecclesiam nulla salus ("outside The Church there is no salvation"), arguing that baptism of blood and baptism of desire are unavailing and that therefore no non-Catholics will be saved. He fought against what he perceived to be the liberalization of Catholic doctrine.(emphasis added)
The Catholic priests have said that we do not know any case of the baptism of desire so how can it be an exception. So Fr.Leonard Feeney was also saying that there is no case known of the baptism of desire in particular cases so it does not contradict the dogma.

Unless the Church declares someone a martyr or a saint, we cannot say anyone in particular is a martyr; we cannot say that we can meet a person saved as a martyr and so he contradicts the need for everyone to be a visible member of the Church with no exception.

Wikipedia and the secular media continue with this false propaganda.
-Lionel Andrades
E-mail: lionelandrades10@gmail.com

Photo: Fr.Leonard Feeney with the Slaves of the Immaculate Heart of Mary. The photo is from the website of the Sisters of St.Benedict Center.

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