The Conference of Catholic Bishops Conference of England and Wales (CBCEW) ecumenical offfers and catechists agree that the baptism of desire is not an exception to the dogma outside the church there is no salvation.
Since those saved in invincible ignorance are unknown to us there cannot be two interpretations of the dogma, ‘ rigorist interpretation’ and non-rigorist interpretation.The Conference of Catholic Bishops of England and Wales (CBCEW) is back to the centuries old interpretation of the dogma;the only interpretation. The secular media refer to the 'rigorist interpretation' of the dogma assuming there is a second interpretation. They assume that the baptism of desire and those saved in invincible ignorance are defacto known to us and so contradict the original interpretation of the dogma extra ecclesiam nulla salus.
Representatives of Churches Together in England and Ireland have been informed of this issue.
Catholics bishops seem to agree with the 'rigorist interpretation' of the dogma extra ecclesiam nulla salus.They agree there is no visible baptism of desire and so the baptism of desire and those saved in invincible ignorance are not exceptions to the thrice- defined dogma which Pope Pius XII called an 'infallible statement'.
These blog posts were sent to representatives of the CBEW asking for their comments.They have been sent to, among others, the:
General Secretariat lorraine.welch@cbcew.org.uk, Department of Dialogue and Unity dialunity@cbcew.org.uk, Department Administrator : grace.applewaithe@cbcew.org.uk
They accept that this is the teaching of the Magisterium.There are no denials. None of them claim that the baptism of desire is visible.
-Lionel Andrades
ENGLISH CATHOLIC BISHOPS CONCEDE THERE IS NO VISIBLE BAPTISM OF DESIRE - LAY CATHOLICS AFFIRM VATICAN COUNCIL II AND THE DOGMA IN MISSION PROGRAMS
Thursday, December 8, 2011
CONFERENCE OF CATHOLIC BISHOPS OF ENGLAND AND WALES AGREE THAT THERE IS NO VISIBLE BAPTISM OF DESIRE : breakthrough in salvation dogma, back to centuries old interpretation.
CARDINAL CORMAC MURPHY O'CONNOR AFFIRMS THE DOGMA EXTRA ECCLESIAM NULLA SALUS AND AGREES WITH DAPHNE MCLEOD
ECCLESSIOLOGY OF ENGLISH BISHOPS HIT BY TWO ERRORS 1) VISIBLE BAPTISM OF DESIRE 2) FR.LEONARD FEENEY EXCOMMUNICATED FOR THE SAME VIEW AS POPES, SAINTS AND DOGMA OUTSIDE THE CHURCH THERE IS NO SALVATION
CATHOLIC BISHOPS CONFERENCE OF ENGLAND AND WALES SAYS THOSE SAVED WITH THE BAPTISM OF DESIRE, INVINCIBLE IGNORANCE ARE VISIBLE TO US
ECUMENISM OF THE ENGLISH BISHOPS CONTRARY TO VATICAN COUNCIL II
CATHOLIC LAY PROFESSOR AT UNIVERSITA EUROPA DI ROMA AFFIRMS DOGMA EXTRA ECCLESIAM NULLA SALUS
LEGIONARY OF CHRIST PRIEST FR.RAFAEL PASCUAL AFFIRMS CANTATE DOMINO, COUNCIL OF FLORENCE
FR.TULLIO ROTONDO AFFIRMS CANTATE DOMINO, COUNCIL OF FLORENCE ON EXTRA ECCLESIAM NULLA SALUS
CANTATE DOMINO, COUNCIL OF FLORENCE ON EXTRA ECCLESIAM NULLA SALUS IS DE FIDE AND NOT CONTRADICTED BY VATICAN COUNCIL II- Fr. Nevus Marcello O.P
BRAZILIAN PRIEST SAYS VATICAN COUNCIL II DOES NOT CONTRADICT DOGMA EXTRA ECCLESIAM NULLA SALUS
CATHOLIC PRIESTS IN ROME AGREE WITH FR.LEONARD FEENEY: THERE IS NO BAPTISM OF DESIRE THAT WE CAN KNOW OF
DAPHNE MCLEOD’S COMMENT SHOULD BE A WAKE UP CALL FOR SSPX, TRADITIONALISTS AND ENGLISH BISHOPS
LETTER OF THE HOLY OFFICE 1949 WAS CRITICAL OF ARCHBISHOP RICHARD CUSHING
IN ANALYSING THE LETTER OF THE HOLY OFFICE 1949 YOU ARE USING A DEFACTO-DEJURE ANALYSIS OR A DEFACTO-DEFACTO ANALYSIS.WHETHER YOU KNOW IT OR NOT YOUR USING ONE OF THE TWO
CONFUSION OVER THE LETTER OF THE HOLY OFFICE 1949
REMEMBER THAT THE REPORT BY FR.WILLIAM MOST ON EXTRA ECCLESIAM NULLA SALUS IS NOT THE OFFICIAL TEACHING OF THE CHURCH: IT CONTAINS ERRORS AND HERESY
CARDINAL RATZINGER DID NOT VIOLATE THE PRINCIPLE OF NON CONTRADICTION AS CATHOLICS UNITED FOR THE FAITH IMPLY
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