Today mornig I spoke to two Dominican priests at the Basilica of Santa Maria sopra Minerva, Rome and asked them if they knew any one saved in invincible ignorance and the baptism of desire. Both these priests answered NO. It is known only to God.
According to a report on the internet by the Eternal Word Television Network (EWTN) the Catholic Magisterium rejects the ‘rigorist position of Fr.Feeney that all must be actual members of the Catholic Church to be saved.’
The Dominican priests are saying that we do not know any explicit case of non Catholics saved in invincible ignorance etc. So defacto, there are no visible cases which contradict the ‘rigorist position of Fr.Feeney that all must be actual members of the Catholic Church to be saved.’
The Dominicans at this Church, where is it is believed Galileo was tried for not being able to prove the heliocentric model of the universe and then making theological observations, also contradicted EWTN’s interpretation of Pope Pius IX ( Allocution address December 9th, 1854 ).
Pope Pius IX held the rigorist interpretation of the dogma extra ecclesiam nulla salus and also affirmed the possibility of non Catholics being saved in invincible ignorance, cases of which are unknown to us and so are not explicit exceptions to the dogma.
Pope Pius IX was saying : (Defacto) :'We must hold as of the faith, that out of the Apostolic Roman Church there is no salvation; that she is the only ark of safety, and whosoever is not in her perishes in the deluge…’ and ( Dejure): ‘we must also, on the other hand, recognize with certainty that those who are invincible in ignorance of the true religion are not guilty for this in the eyes of the Lord...'
Defacto (explicitly) everyone needs to enter the Church for salvation (to avoid Hell) and de jure (in principle) and known only to God, there could be non Catholics saved in invincible ignorance etc , ‘in certain circumstances’(Letter of the Holy Office 1949).
Instead of a defacto-dejure analysis EWTN uses a defacto-defacto analysis. EWTN says every one needs to defacto enter the Church and there could be some non Catholics in invincible ignorance etc who defacto do not have to enter the Church for salvation. EWTN contradicts the Principle of Non Contradiction.
EWTN also implies that the pope is not infallible ex cathedra since Vatican Council II , Lumen Gentium 16 on invincible ignorance etc contradicts the defined dogma Cantate Domino, Council of Florence 1441. It also contradicts Dominus Iesus 20, Ad Gentes 7 etc.
EWTN interprets the Catechismof the Catholic Church and Vatican Council II according to Cushingism which says all need to enter the Church except for those in invincible ignorance and the baptism of desire. Cushinghism assumes that those saved with the baptism of desire etc are visible and known to us and so contradicts Fr.Leonard Feeney and the dogma.
To reject an ex cathedra dogma and other authoritative magisterial texts, for whateever reason is heresy. Here EWTN is rejecting these teachings by assuming that those saved in invincible ignorance are defacto known to us and so are exceptions.
EWTN also slanders Fr.Leonard Feeney who died a son of the Church and the excommunication for disobedience was lifted during his lifetime.He held the rigorist interpretation of the dogma outside the church there is no salvation just as the Church Fathers, saints, popes and Councils including Vatican Council II(AG 7,LG 14)
.-Lionel Andrades
Friday, February 17, 2012
EWTN'S NEW REPORT ON OUTSIDE THE CHURCH NO SALVATION ASSUMES THOSE SAVED WITH THE BAPTISM OF DESIRE ETC ARE EXPLCITLY KNOWN TO US AND SO
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