The International Theological Commission (ITC) makes an objective, factual error in two of its published documents. Could they also be wrong about Limbo?
The ITC has rejected the centuries old interpretation of the define dogma extra ecclesiam nulla salus. Since they assume, perhaps as an oversight, that there are visible cases of persons saved with the baptism of desire or in invincible ignorance, or the seeds of the Word etc.
So they reject the traditional interpretation of the dogma which taught that there is exclusive salvation in only the Catholic Church. This means millions of non Catholics are oriented to the fires of Hell at the time of death.
Now Catholic religious communities can ask why not accept the literal interpretation of extra ecclesiam nulla salus and also accept the possibility of non Catholics being saved with the baptism of desire and invincible ignorance which would only be known to God.
ITC however assumed that the literal interpretation of the dogma no longer existed since Vatican Council II refers to those saved in invincible ignorance (LG 16) etc.This is an objective mistake. Since invincible ignorance is not an exception to the dogma.We do not know any such case on earth.
So when the ITC suggests that there is hope for infants and that they do not go to Limbo or Hell but straight to Heaven this is speculation. The ITC admits in the document that finally they really do not know.There is no new Revelation which says that the church has to change its teaching on Limbo. The ITC's discarding the teaching on the salvation dogma has now no basis. Also no Church document claims that those saved in invincible ignorance or the baptism of desire are known to us or that they are defacto exceptions to the dogma. The ITC has developed extensive theologies based on this error. Pure speculation, again?
24 Reasons Why Not To Reject Limbo
Thursday, March 29, 2012
INTERNATIONAL THEOLOGICAL COMMISSION USES PREMISE THAT IS FACTUALLY INCORRECT : LIMBO
The International Theological Commission (ITC) in 'The Hope of Salvation for Infants who die without being baptized' uses a premise which is factually wrong.
1. We cannot telephone or meet people in Heaven and so we do not know these cases in particular.
2. Extra ecclesiam nulla salus was not an only an adage and an expression it was a dogma, defined three times.
3. Pope Pius IX did not state anywhere that those saved in invincible ignorance are explicitly known and so are exceptions to the dogma which says whoever does not enter into the Church will perish forever.
58. In the face of new problems and situations and of an exclusive interpretation of the adage: “salus extra ecclesiam non est”, the magisterium, in recent times, has articulated a more nuanced understanding as to the manner in which a saving relationship with the Church can be realized.
The present Magisterium assumes that we know cases of persons saved in invincible ignorance and so it is a defacto exception to the dogma extra ecclesiam nulla salus ? This is factually incorrect. We do not know those who are in Heaven except for the saints.
On this faulty premise a whole theology has been built up ie the visibly-known cases of those saved in invincible ignorance and the baptism of desire.
The Allocution of Pope Pius IX, Singulari Quadam (1854) clearly states the issues involved: “It must, of course, be held as a matter of faith that outside the apostolic Roman Church no one can be saved, that the Church is the only ark of salvation, and that whoever does not enter it, will perish in the flood. On the other hand, it must likewise be held as certain that those who live in ignorance of the true religion, if such ignorance be invincible, are not subject to any guilt in this matter before the eyes of the Lord”.
The Allocution of Pope PIus IX clearly does not state in the passage cited above that those saved in invincible ignorance are explicitly known and so are exceptions to the dogma which says whoever does not enter into the Church will perish.These exceptional cases are known only to God.The Church Councils and popes knew this. This unfortunately was the error of the Archbishop of Boston Richard Cushing and the Jesuits there.
They also included it in Vatican Council II (LG 16). That a non Catholic can be saved in invincible ignorance is not a problem and neither was it an issue. However when it is assumed, with no magisterial texts including that of Vatican Council II, that these cases are explicitly known and are an exception to the dogma extra ecclesiam nulla salus, here we are given a new doctrine which is not part of the Deposit of the Faith.It is also irrational.
59. The Letter of the Holy Office to the Archbishop of Boston (1949) offers further specifications. “To gain eternal salvation, it is not always required that a person be incorporated in reality (reapse) as a member of the Church, but it is necessary that one belong to it at least in desire and longing (voto et desiderio). It is not always necessary that this desire be explicit as it is with catechumens.
Yes in principle a person can be saved with the baptism of desire. In reality, explicitly we do not know any case of a person saved in Heaven with the baptism of desire. So it is not an issue with respect to the dogma extra ecclesiam nulla salus.
When one is invincibly ignorant, God also accepts an implicit desire, so called because it is contained in the good disposition of soul by which a person wants his or her will to be conformed to God’s will”.
Yes and the ITC assumes that these cases are explicit and known in reality so they contradict the dogma extra ecclesiam nulla salus.
Nostra Aetate does say that the Church is the' new people of God'. Catholics are the Chosen People.They have the Promised Jewish Messiah, the Eternal Covenant and the Sacrifice of the Holy Mass
The International Theological Commission's position paper Christianity and the World Religions 1997 has an objective factual error and is approved by Cardinal Joseph Ratzinger : invincible ignorance is not an exception to the dogma extra ecclesiam nulla salus
INTERNATIONAL THEOLOGICAL COMMISSION ASSUMES ‘SEEDS OF THE WORD’ (VATICAN COUNCIL II ) IN OTHER RELIGIONS ARE KNOWN TO US AND THIS IS AN EXPLICIT EXCEPTION TO THE DOGMA EXTRA ECCLESIAM NULLA SALUS
VATICAN'S INTERNATIONAL THEOLOGICAL COMMISSION MAKES AN ERROR IN ITS POSITION PAPER CHRISTIANITY AND THE WORLD RELIGIONS