Mnsgr.Nicola Bux the SSPX in reality accepts Vatican Council II

Monsignor Nicola Bux, consultant to the Congregation for the Doctrine of the Faith and the Office of Liturgical Celebrations of the Pope, addressed an open letter to Bishop Fellay and the priests of the Society of St. Pius X, inviting them to accept an agreement.

He wrote “Perplexities certainly remain, points to be deepened or detailed, such as those regarding ecumenism and inter religious dialogue (which has been, for that matter, already the object of an important clarification given by the declaration Dominus Iesus...’)

We know otherwise. We know the Society of St. Pius X (SSPX) is in agreement with Vatican Council II which states all need Catholic Faith and the baptism of water for salvation. (Ad Gentes 7, Vatican Council II). So in reality the SSPX agrees with Vatican Council II on ecumenism and inter religious dialogue. All non Catholics need to enter the Church with Catholic Faith and the baptism of water for salvation (to avoid Hell).

The issue is does Cardinal Luis Ladaria S.J, Secretary of the Congregation for the Doctrine of the Faith accept Ad Gentes 7? Two of the position papers of the International Theological Commission (ITC) which he approved and which carries his name show that he does not. The two papers are The Hope of Salvation for Infants who Die without Baptism and Christianity and the World Religions.

He has another interpretation of Vatican Council II which the SSPX rejects.

The SSPX in reality affirms Vatican Council II according to Tradition and the text of the document. Cardinal Luis Ladaria affirms Vatican Council II with a new doctrine and with no supporting text in Vatican Council II. The proof is there in the  two position papers of the ITC.

Cardinal Luis Ladaria assumes that those saved in invincible ignorance and with the baptism of desire are known to us in reality and so are exceptions to Ad Gentes 7, Vatican Council II. So for him all non Catholics do not have to enter the Church and those in invincible ignorance etc are explicit exceptions. This is a new doctrine. Since Lumen Gentium 16 or other text in Vatican Council II do not state that those saved in invincible ignorance etc are known to us or that they are an exception to Ad Gentes 7, Dominus Iesus 20 or the defined dogma extra ecclesiam nulla salus.There is no such text in Vatican Council II.

Lumen  Gentium 16 only mentions those saved in invincible ignorance. This was accepted by the Church Fathers, the popes and Councils. The SSPX also accepts this.

So Cardinal Luis Ladaria, who led the talks with the SSPX, is teaching a new doctrine with no supportive text in Vatican Council II. The SSPX and all faithful Catholics reject this interpretation allegedly of Vatican Council II.

So it should not be alleged that the SSPX reject Vatican Council II with reference to ecumenism and inter religious dialogue. Instead it is the Vatican team which claims that there are visible cases of non Catholics saved with the baptism of desire or in invincible ignorance who are known to us  and these are exceptions to Ad Gentes 7 and Lumen Gentium 14 which says all need to enter the Church. Since the cardinal and the Congregation for the Doctrine of the Faith imply  that these are exceptions it is assumed that these exceptions are known to them.

The Letter of the Holy Office 1949 which Cardinal Luis Ladaria quotes in the ITC position paper does not mention that those saved with the baptism of desire or in invincible ignorance are known to us or that they are explicit exceptions to the dogma extra ecclesiam nulla salus.

If the Letter assumed that those saved in invincible ignorance etc were defacto exceptions to the dogma then it would be an objective and common sense error on their part. Fr.Leonard Feeney was correct in saying that the baptism of desire etc are not exceptions to the dogma.These cases are known only in Heaven.

So when the Vatican-team at the talks which included a former Rector of the Angelicum University, Rome state those saved in invincible ignorance and the baptism of desire are exceptions to the dogma extra ecclesiam nulla salus they do not have any supportive text in Vatican Council II.

The  SSPX should not be expected to accept this erroneous version of Vatican Council II.

Lionel Andrades
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FRIDAY, MARCH 30, 2012

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