Wednesday, September 5, 2012

Archbishop Muller says that there is no need for Protestants to convert - John Vennari

Last September Archbishop Muller went to a Lutheran Church and gave a joint blessing with the Lutheran ‘bishop’ says John Vennari.
Archbishop Muller has brought in the new ecumenical theology of Vatican Council II . Even though this teaching cannot be explicitly found in the text of Vatican Council II. The orientation that came from it is that the non Catholic need not convert into the Catholic Faith for salvation.


John Vennari speaking on “Voice of Catholic Radio” said that Bishop Muller wrote his doctoral dissertation under Cardinal Karl Lehman .Lehman taught that the anathemas of the Council of Trent only applied to the Lutherans of those days.It doesn’t apply now.


Bishop Muller is of that progressivist school of Lehman and he wrote his doctoral dissertation under Fr.Lehman. St.Pius X warned against modernist teachers.The students are formed according to the pattern of their masters.


With this background we can understand Bishop Muller and why he will teach things different from  what the Church teaches said Vennari.


The new orientation of Vatican now says that we approach Protestants now kind of like equals, that we no longer try to convert them. Conversion of the non Catholic is replaced with conversion with the non Catholics. So he will go along with that as well.


Muller says that there is no need for Protestants to convert .


He has bought in the new ecumenical theology of Vatican Council II . Even though this teaching cannot be explicitly found in the text of Vatican Council II. The orientation that came from it is that the non Catholic need not convert into the Catholic Faith for salvation.


In September 2011 he went to a Lutheran church for ecumenical vespers and at the end of the vespers Archbishop Muller and the Lutheran ‘bishop’ gave a joint blessing. This is putting the one true church of Christ on the same level as counterfeit religions said  John Vennari  in the interview. Something the Church always forbade, something the popes forbade specifically.This is the progressivist tradition that Archbishop Muller is a part of and so he will say to the  Society of St.Pius X  that this is what  you must follow.--Lionel Andrades

“Voice of Catholic Radio” Interview with John Vennari
on Archbishop Müller, newly appointed head of Vatican CDF


http://www.sspxasia.com/Documents/SiSiNoNo/2001_November/Cardinals_With_No_Faith.htm

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JEHOVAH'S WITNESSES, MESSIANIC JEWS NOT TO BE THERE AT ECUMENICAL MEETING THIS WEEK.

http://eucharistandmission.blogspot.it/2012/09/jehovah-witnessesmessianic-jews-not-to.html#links

BISHOP CHARLES MOREROD O.P IN BLATANT HERESY IS TO SPEAK BEFORE THE POPE ON ANGLICAN RELATIONS
http://eucharistandmission.blogspot.it/2012/09/bishop-charles-morerod-op-in-blatant.html#links

Can Cardinal Schonborn speak the truth and say that Vatican Council II does not contradict the dogma extra ecclesiam nulla salus and the Syllabus of Errors ?
http://eucharistandmission.blogspot.it/2012/09/can-cardinal-schonborn-speak-truth-and.html#links

JEHOVAH'S WITNESSES, MESSIANIC JEWS NOT TO BE THERE AT ECUMENICAL MEETING THIS WEEK.

Cardinal Kurt Koch does not accept Vatican Council II which says all need Catholic Faith and the baptism of water for salvation. Yet he will participate in the ecumenical meeting on Friday.Why does he not also invite the Jehovah’s Witnesses at this meeting? They say they believe in Jesus Christ, they use a Bible and they call themselves Christians.

Cardinal Koch does not admit that Vatican Council II states all non Catholics need Catholic Faith and the baptism of water for salvation.

When Catholics say that 'the Church does not teach this any more' they mean Cardinals Kaspar, Koch and Ladaria have changed church teachings with no theological basis and they are supported by the whole machinery of the Left. The pope allows it.On Friday the pope will participate at a meeting of liberals.

They are in dissent since the Prefect of the  Congregation for the Doctrine of the Faith,Vatican Cardinal Gerhard Muller cannot say all Lutherans are on the way to Hell unless they convert into the Catholic Church - according to Vatican Council II  (AG 7).  There are  no known exceptions; LG 16 is not an exception to AG 7.

This was also the mistake of Cardinal Walter Kaspar. They will use his book  as a reference at the meeting.Cardinal Kaspar could not mention that Vatican Council II (AG 7) indicates all Protestants and Orthodox Christians need to convert for salvation. This includes the Jehovah's Witnesses.

 Cardinal Walter Kaspar in one of his talks referred to the error of Fr. Leonard Feeney. This was reported on the website of the Council for Christian Unity, Vatican. He said that the Church no more holds the strict interpretation of outside the church there is no salvation. The Letter of the Holy Office corrected  Fr.Leonard Feeney he mentioned. So this 'error of Fr. Leonard Feeney' is now the theological basis for the new theology and the new ecumenism, while the pope also believes in it. If the cardinal who issued the Letter of the Holy Office 1949 assumed that the baptism of desire was known and an exception to the dogma, then he made a common sense mistake. The participants at the Friday ecumenical meeting  still don’t seem to realize it. If the Letter said that the baptism of desire contradicts the dogma then it would mean that the cardinal who issued the Letter made a mistake.

This was the error of Cardinal Richard Cushing the Archbishop of Boston who  approved the excommunication of Fr.Leonard Feeney. Cardinals Kaspar, Koch and Ladaria's new ecumenism is based on the error of Cardinal Richard Cushing in the 1940's.

This is not something I take pleasure in reporting. However we have to accept this reality and then go on further.

Since they have rejected the dogma outside the church no salvation now at all the Masses offered in the Catholic Church the priest says in the homily that Jesus is the only Saviour. Then he leaves out the necessity of being a member of the Church for salvation.

Lutherans, Anglicans etc can be saved in their communities and they do not have to convert according to the Council for Christian Unity, Vatican.It's Jesus without the Catholic Church.

Cardinal Kurt Koch, President of the Council for Christian Unity however will not admit Jews for Jesus to their  ecumenical meetings. The Messianic Jews believe in Jesus without the Catholic Church just like the Lutherans. Also the Jehovah’s Witnesses are not permitted to this ecumenical meeting with all its confusion and new doctrines.-Lionel Andrades

PHOTO CAPTION : Jehovah's Witnesses today morning near the Cornelia Metro Station,Rome (right) Cardinal Gerhard Muller, Prefect of the CDF, Vatican giving a common blessing along with a Lutheran pastor.

BISHOP CHARLES MOREROD O.P IN BLATANT HERESY IS TO SPEAK BEFORE THE POPE ON ANGLICAN RELATIONS

Bishop Charles Morerod O.P has made an objective error on the International Theological Commission(ITC)  papers, when he was the ITC Secretary.The same error he taught at the University of St. Thomas Aquinas, Angelicum, Rome. He also implemented this error as moderator of the thesis of students who chose the subject outside the church no salvation.On Friday before Pope Benedict XVI he is to speak on' the subject of the Anglicans'.


The error of Bishop Morerod the new bishop of Geneva, Lausanne and Fribourg  is grave. Since it says that a defined dogma has exceptions.Secondly irrationally ( and may be hilariously for some) the 'exceptions' are non-Catholics  who are dead. They were saved with the baptism of desire etc . They are supposed to be still on earth to be exceptions to the dogma which says all need to convert into the Church for salvation.This is the Richard Cushing  error of the visible dead.


This is first class heresy. It contradicts the Nicene Creed,Vatican Council II (AG 7), the dogma extra ecclesiam nulla salus and  magisterial documents  of Pope John Paul II.
It contradicts the Bible (John 3:5 , Mark 16:16).

This is organised doctrinal ambiguity and confusion for many lay Catholics who are told the Church has changes its teachings, even though there has been no new Revelation and no rational theological basis.
-Lionel Andrades
 
PHOTO CAPTION: Jehovah Witnesses on the streets of Rome yesterday morning. They could be ex Catholics.There is so much doctrinal ambiguity in the Catholic Church today.They could believe that they are saved if they just believe in Jesus and live a virtous life as a JW.This is a fall out of the Richard Cushing Error.
 
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Former Secretary of the International Theological Commission holds that those saved with the baptism of desire and in invincible ignorance are known to us and so an exception to the dogma extra ecclesiam nulla salus