On November 29,2012 when I spoke with an official of the Congregation for Divine Worship and the Discipline of the Sacraments,Vatican he agreed that we could not see the dead. The dead saved in invincible ignorance, a good conscience, seeds of the Word, imperfect communion with the Church, elements of sanctification etc were known only to God. So these cases could not be cited as exceptions to Ad Gentes 7, Vatican Council II which says all need 'faith and baptism' for salvation.He agreed that Vatican Council II does not contradict itself.Lumen Gentium 16 does not contradict Ad Gentes 7.Neither does Vatican Council II contradict the dogma extra ecclesiam nulla salus or, Tradition in general.Nor does the Catechism of the Catholic Church contradict the dogma.
The dogma was in agreement with past Magisterial documents.
So is this an impediment for the priest offering Mass, if it is known and denied in public?
He said that if the priest knowingly denies Vatican Council II(AG 7), the dogma extra ecclesiam nulla salus and the Nicene Creed (I believe in one baptism for the forgiveness of sins) then this was an issue for the local bishop. The Congregation leaves this issue,he said, for the bishop to decide.
However now in the case of the Catholic Bishop of Calgary, it is Bishop Fred Henry himself who is denying the dogma extra ecclesiam nulla salus. He interprets Vatican Council II as a break with the past. He interprets the Catechism of the Catholic Church as suggesting invincible ignorance and the baptism of desire are known exceptions to extra ecclesiam nulla salus. He makes the same error of the Archbishop of Boston Cardinal Richard Cushing who believed that invincible ignorance and the baptism of desire were explicit and visible for us.So for him too they were exceptions to the literal intrpretation of Fr.Leonard Feeney.
Here is a bishop who is not affirming the Catholic Faith and yet he offers Holy Mass.-Lionel Andrades
Vatican Council II does not contradict itself or the dogma extra ecclesiam nulla salus. We cannot see the dead.- Congregation for Divine Worship and the Discipline of the Sacraments,Vatican
http://eucharistandmission.blogspot.it/2012/11/vatican-council-ii-does-not-contradict.html#links
Even though the St. Dennis Catholic Church does not accept Vatican Council II the SSPX members in Calgary could inform the bishop that there is nothing rational in the Council which contradicts the dogma extra ecclesiam nulla salus
http://eucharistandmission.blogspot.it/2013/01/even-though-st-dennis-catholic-church.html
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