Friday, February 1, 2013

SSPX PRIOR AT ALBANO,ITALY SAYS WE DON'T KNOW ANYONE SAVED IN INVINCIBLE IGNORANCE AND THE BAPTISM OF DESIRE


Indicates that Vatican Council II does not contradict the traditional teaching on other religions.
Father Aldo Rossi agreed that implicit-for-us salvation is not physically visible and so it does not contradict extra ecclesiam nulla salus.I spoke with Father Aldo Rossi, Prior of the Fraternita Sacerdotale San Pio X (SSPX),Albano,Italy yesterday at the SSPX chapel of St.Catherine of Siena,Roma. He had offered Holy Mass on the feast of St. John Bosco.

The baptism of desire and being saved in invincible ignorance are not physically visible to us humans he said however a catechuman could be saved with the baptism of desire. It was a possibility.


Since we cannot see these cases, he agreed, they were not explicit exceptions to the dogma on salvation. The dogma says all need to convert into the Church for salvation.The dogma indicates that every one needs to be a visible member of the Catholic Church to go to Heaven.It does not mention any exceptions.

There are none was Fr.Aldo Rossi's message.


Similar to two other priests from Albano, he was saying those who are saved in invincible ignorance and the baptism of desire are irrelevant to the dogma on exclusive salvation in the Catholic Church.

It may be mentioned that on the Internet Catholics discuss if the baptism of desire results in justification only or also in salvation.Either way this is not an issue with respect to the dogma extra ecclesiam nulla salus.The real issue is: is the baptism of desire explicit, is it visible for us?


If the baptism of desire is explicit for us in 2013 then it is an exception to the dogma extra ecclesiam nulla salus.It means those with the baptism of desire do not have to convert into the Catholic Church and these cases are known on earth for them to be exceptions.It would mean every one does not have to be a visible member of the Church for salvation as is commonly held. 


Fr.Aldo Rossi says these cases are not an exception since they are explicit only for God.
-Lionel Andrades
 
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Another SSPX priest in Rome says implicit salvation is not visible to us and is known only to God.


ARCHBISHOP,CATHOLIC PRIESTS AND LAY APOLOGIST SAY VATICAN COUNCIL II DOES NOT CONTRADICT THE DOGMA EXTRA ECCLESIAM NULLA SALUS AND THE SYLLABUS OF ERRORS : "We don't know any case of the baptism of desire or invincible ignorance.Only Jesus can judge"

REDEMPTORIST PRIEST SAYS VATICAN COUNCIL II DOES NOT CONTRADICT ITSELF NOR THE DOGMA EXTRA ECCLESIAM NULLA SALUS


Implicit intention, invincible ignorance and a good conscience (LG 16) in Vatican Council II do not contradict extra ecclesiam nulla salus –John Martigioni

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