Thursday, January 9, 2014

The box of mangos

If in a box of mangoes there is an  apple , the apple is an exception because it is there. It exists there. If it was not there it would not be an exception.
To be an exception  it has to be visible and known and different.
When it is not visible, known and existing it is not an exception.
I do not know any person; I cannot see anyone in heaven or on earth saved with the baptism of desire or in invincible ignorance.These cases are not visible to me but are known only to God i.e if there was such  a case .So they cannot be an exception to any thing.
Jesus reaffirmed the necessity of faith and baptism for salvation (Vatican Council II, Ad Gentes 7). I cannot see any exception in 2014.
In theory is is possible to be saved as such, in practise, in real life, there are no such cases.
So when Vatican Council II (LG 14) says those who know that the Church is founded by God , through Jesus Christ but  do not enter will be damned, is this something implicit or explicit for you?
Vatican Council II (LG 16) refers to those who through no fault of their own have not had the Gospel preached to them and who have been leading a good life and so could be saved . Is this subjective or objective for us?
When the Catechism of the Catholic Church 846 indicates all who are saved in another religion are saved through Jesus and the Church, do we know of any such case?
Are these cases invisible or visible for you?
When the Catechism of the Catholic Church 846 indicates that those who are saved in another religion are saved through Jesus and the Church , do we know of any such case?
Are these cases invisible or visible for you? 
When the Catechism (1257 The Necessity of Baptism) says God is not limited to the Sacraments, is it referring to hypothetical cases or defacto, known- to- us people  in 2014?
Similarly those saved with the seeds of the Word(AG 11), imperfect communion with the Church(UR 3) are explicit for us or explicit only for God?
Would Cardinal Richard Cushing, the Archbishop of Boston and the Jesuits of Boston know the name and surname of an exception to all needing faith and baptism for salvation?
Was there a known case to refute Fr.Leonard Feeney of Boston?
Could those saved through the 'good and holy' things in their religion (NA 2) be relevant or an exception to the dogma extra ecclesiam nulla salus ?
Could any reader of this blog give me an example of an exception to extra ecclesiam nulla salus, mentioned in Vatican Council II ?
-Lionel Andrades
 

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