Sunday, March 23, 2014

Catechism of Pope Pius X and Catechism of the Catholic Church 1993 does not state there is known salvation outside the Church

According to the Catechism of Pope Pius X 1905 (Catechismo Maggiore)1 being sold by the Society of St.Pius X (SSPX) Number 169 D (p.48) asks if there is salvation outside the Catholic Church.
 
The Reply is 'No'. Outside  the Catholic Church there is no one who can be saved it  said, it is like  no one could be saved in the Flood outside the Ark of Noah.The Ark of Noah is compared to the Catholic Church.
 
The Catechism of Pope Pius X has the same message as the present Catechism of the Catholic Church (845,846). CCC 845 repeats that the Church can be compared to the Ark of Noah that saves in the Flood and that God wants all people to be united in the Church.

CCC 846 is titled outside the Church there is no salvation. It quotes Ad Gentes 7 which says all need faith and baptism for salvation and that all need to enter the Church as through a door.
 
So we have the traditional interpretation of the dogma extra ecclesiam nulla salus in CCC 845,846 as it was known to St.Robert Bellarmine, St. Antony Marie Claret, St.Maximillian Kolbe etc. 

In the Catechism of the Pope Pius X P.132 D it is asked: can any one be saved in some way without the baptism of water? 

The reply is that the lack of the Sacrament of Baprism could be supplied with the baptism of blood (martyrdom) or an act of perfect love for God  or contrition or with  an implicit desire for Baptism, this is called the Baptism of desire. 

The same is said in the Catechism of the Catholic Church  847. 'This affirmation is not aimed at those who, through no fault of their own, do not know Christ and his Church...' .
 
 "For catechumens who die before their Baptism, their explicit desire to receive it, together with repentance for their sins, and charity, assures them the salvation that they were not able to receive through the sacrament" (CCC 1259).
 
Both Catechisms mention the baptism of desire and neither of the two state that these cases are explicit for us. Yet the traditionalists and the liberals assume that these cases are visible to us in the flesh and so are known exceptions to the dogma extra ecclesiam nulla salus. 

For the SSPX there are known exceptions to Number 169D since the baptism of desire is not implicit but explicit for them.So is there salvation outside the Catholic Church for the SSPX in 2014 ?. YES! 

The Catechism of Pope Pius X says NO but they say YES. They say YES because of known exceptions. Those saved with the baptism of desire are not invisible but visible for the SSPX priests.

This error is extended to Vatican Council II. For the SSPX, according to the books they are selling, NA 2, UR 3 etc  contradict Number 169 D of the Catechism of Pope Pius X . Since NA 2, UR 3 refer to visible and not invisible cases, even though neither of the catechisms make this claim.

Neither of the two catechisms say that there are known exceptions to the dogma extra ecclesiam nulla salus but is assumed that there are such exceptions !
-Lionel Andrades
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.Catechismo Maggiore,
promulgato da San Pio X (Edizioni Ares).
Compendio della Dottrina Cristiana prescritto da Sua Santita Pap Pio X 1905 ,Roma
 
 
27 Q. Can one be saved outside the Catholic, Apostolic and Roman Church?
A. No, no one can be saved outside the Catholic, Apostolic Roman Church, just as no one could be saved from the flood outside the Ark of Noah, which was a figure of the Church.
https://www.ewtn.com/library/CATECHSM/PIUSXCAT.HTM

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