Sunday, August 31, 2014

Upon a hypothetical case Cardinal Joseph Ratzinger cannot reject a de fide teaching which says God has bound salvation to the Sacraments



Fr.Martin Fox:
Thank you for stating your position.
So, when Augustine says (as reported by St Thomas Aquinas):
"some have received the invisible sanctification without visible sacraments, and to their profit; but though it is possible to have the visible sanctification, consisting in a visible sacrament, without the invisible sanctification, it will be to no profit."
You disagree with Augustine?
It's a yes or no question.
Your answer should be one word.
Yes. Or no.


Lionel:

Fr.Martin Fox says:
Augustine
'some have received the invisible sanctification without visible sacraments, and to their profit; but though it is possible to have the visible sanctification, consisting in a visible sacrament, without the invisible sanctification, it will be to no profit."

Lionel:
'some have received the invisible sanctification without visible sacraments, and to their profit'.This is irrelevant to the dogma extra ecclesiam nulla salus and the need for all to receive the baptism of water. Since we do not know and cannot know any such case in 2014.It is hypothetical.

Even if it is correct, as it is meaningful for you, what bearing does it have on all needing the baptism of water for salvation in 2014 and there are no exceptions?

So even if there was such a case one could not say 'God is not limited to the Sacraments' since this case would not be part of the reality of Cardinal Ratzinger.

Upon a hypothetical case he cannot reject a de fide teaching which says God has bound salvation to the Sacraments.
-Lionel Andrades

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