Father Serafino Lanzetta FFI says that in his studies of Vatican Council II and in his recent book he has not taken in account Ad Gentes 7, Vatican Council II.He will study this reasoning in depth in future since it comes up often in soteriology ( salvation theories) of non Catholics.
On Aprofondimenti di Fides Catholica he was replying to a comment I made. I thought he was using an irrational inference in his writings and this could be expressed also in his book on Vatican Council II.
I cited some of the blog posts on Eucharist and Mission.It said that he did not directly say that Vatican Council II (Ad Gentes 7) says all need faith and baptism for salvation and this would also include Jews and Muslims.
Neither did he write that those who are saved in invincible ignorance or the baptism of desire are not explicit exceptions to extra ecclesiam nulla salus.He seemed to imply in his writings including a report posted on line, that they are visible and so are exceptions,
So when asked if all non Catholics are oriented to Hell he should have answered 'Yes'. Since the dogma extra ecclesiam nulla salus and Ad Gentes tell us that all non Catholics are on the way to Hell unless they convert into the Catholic Church.
I also sent him a link to the blog post which asked if the Letter of the Holy Office 1949 during the pontificate of Pope Pius XII committed an objective error.He did not respond to this question.
He has acknowledged however that this is a new reasoning , which he has overlooked and it could be discussed in future.
It may be mentioned that in none of the books written by SSPX priests and lay SSPX supporters is Ad Gentes 7 mentioned. Ad Gentes 7 indicates all non Catholics are oriented to Hell since they do not have faith and baptism needed for salvation. Ad Gentes 7 is in agreement with the SSPX traditional position on other religions while LG 16,LG 6,UR 3,NA 3 etc are not exceptions since the deceased are not visible to us in 2014 .Ad Gentes 7 supports the SSPX General Chapter Statement 2012 which says there are no exceptions to extra ecclesiam nulla salus.
Lionel Andrades
Caro Lionel Andrades,
è da un po' che mi dice che non ho tenuto conto di Ad gentes 7 e solleva ripetutamente il problema soteriologico della salvezza dei non cattolici. Le faccio solo notare che nei miei studi pubblicati sul Concilio, e particolarmente nel mio ultimo libro, non ho affrontato questo argomento. E' un argomento interessante, ma lo lasciamo a un approfondimento successivo. E così potremo parlarne con cognizione di causa.
Cordiali saluti in Domino nostro
è da un po' che mi dice che non ho tenuto conto di Ad gentes 7 e solleva ripetutamente il problema soteriologico della salvezza dei non cattolici. Le faccio solo notare che nei miei studi pubblicati sul Concilio, e particolarmente nel mio ultimo libro, non ho affrontato questo argomento. E' un argomento interessante, ma lo lasciamo a un approfondimento successivo. E così potremo parlarne con cognizione di causa.
Cordiali saluti in Domino nostro
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