Sunday, May 11, 2014

SSPX'S POSITION HAS DRAMATICALLY CHANGED

The inference is not theology or a doctrine. To infer that the dead-saved with ' a ray of the Truth' is visible to us is an intellectual observation.
Upon this intellectual observation is built Professor Gavin D'Costa's theology, that all do not need to enter the Catholic Church for salvation.
 So in Ad Gentes 7 one can infer that all do not need to enter the Church but only 'those who know' about Jesus and the Church and they are visible on earth.If they were not visible on earth, it would mean  that all need faith and baptism for salvation  (AG 7).There would be no exceptions. Only God can know who 'knows'  about the Church (AG 11,LG 14) and who was in invincible ignorance(LG 16).When they are invisible for us they refer to implicit cases. They are not exceptions to extra ecclesiam nulla salus.

 

When Cardinal Gerhard Muller was asked about the dogma extra ecclesiam nulla salus , he said 'The Second Vatican Council also said this: Lumen Gentium 14 says: “Whosoever, therefore, knowing that the Catholic Church was made necessary by Christ, would refuse to enter or to remain in it, could not be saved.” 1 He is inferring here that 'whosoever knowing'  refers to cases visible to us on earth. So they become  explicit exceptions to extra ecclesiam nulla salus. This inference is irrational.It is the familiar visible-dead premise.

Once it is understood that the inference is false and irrational the canonical-status position of the  Society of St.Pius X (SSPX) changes dramatically.

1.The SSPX affirm all texts and documents in Vatican Council II in accord with the traditional and literal interpretation of extra ecclesiam nulla salus.They affirm the dogma on exclusive salvation according to the Church Councils, the popes, saints,Fr. Leonard Feeney and the SSPX General Chapter Statement 2012.2
2.Nostra Aetate 2 (saved with a ray of the Truth) does not contradict extra ecclesiam nulla salus.Nostra Aetate is in agreement with the SSPX traditional position on other religions and salvation.
3.Unitatitis Redintigratio  3 ( imperfect communion with the Church) does not contradict the dogma on exclusive salvation.We do not know anyone in 2014 saved in imperfect communion with the Church.We cannot name anyone.
4.Ad Gentes 11 ( seeds of the Word) does not contradict the dogma on exclusive salvation, the Catechism of Pope Pius X or the Syllabus of Errors.
5.Lumen Gentium 8 ( elements of sanctification and truth) does not contradict extra ecclesiam nulla salus .
6.Dignitatis Humanae says a Catholic has a right to proclaim his Faith. This would be done with the dogma on exclusive salvation in the Church.
DH says in a state with a secular Constitution a non Catholic is legally free to profess his religion.This is a defacto situation in which Catholics can still at all levels ( political etc) affirm extra ecclesiam nulla salus i.e non Catholics are oriented to Hell unless they convert into the Catholic Church.
7.Gaudium et Specs does not contradict Ad Gentes 7 which says 'all' need 'faith and baptism' for salvation.AG 7 is in agreement with the dogma on salvation and there are no exceptions mentioned in any text of Vatican Council II to AG 7.

The key to this interpretation of Vatican Council II is the inference.
 
Once it is understood that we cannot infer that the deceased-saved are visible to us, Vatican Council II changes radically.
 
It would also mean that Cardinal Richard Cushing  and the Jesuits  in Boston were in heresy for implying(inferring) that there were explicit exceptions to extra ecclesiam nulla salus.
 

If the Jewish Left opposes the SSPX's entry into the Church claiming that the SSPX must accept Vatican Council II  the SSPX would respond positively.They accept Vatican Council II in accord with the dogma extra ecclesiam nulla salus and without the visible-dead inference.The SSPX would reject the common interpretation of Vatican Council II  with the dead man walking and visible premise.
 
The SSPX affirms Vatican Council II and also Catholic Tradition. The teachings of the Catholic Church for them would be the same before and after Vatican Council II.
-Lionel Andrades


1
NCR:
Do you, nevertheless, accept there’s been a weakening of the Church’s teaching because of this underlying confusion of terminology? One example sometimes cited is that the teaching of “no salvation outside the Church” seems to have become less prominent.

Archbishop Gerhard Muller:
That has been discussed, but here, too, there has been a development of all that was said in the Church, beginning with St. Cyprian, one of the Fathers of the Church, in the third century. Again, the perspective is different between then and now. In the third century, some Christian groups wanted to be outside the Church, and what St. Cyprian said is that without the Church a Christian cannot be saved. The Second Vatican Council also said this: Lumen Gentium 14 says: “Whosoever, therefore, knowing that the Catholic Church was made necessary by Christ, would refuse to enter or to remain in it, could not be saved.” He who is aware of the presence of Revelation is obliged by his conscience to belong publicly — and not only in his conscience, in his heart — to this Catholic Church by remaining in communion with the Pope and those bishops in communion with him.
June 5, 2013
Archbishop Gerhard Muller was using the false premise : here is the proof! 
 

2
 it seems opportune that we reaffirm our faith in the Roman Catholic Church, the unique Church founded by Our Lord Jesus Christ, outside of which there is no salvation nor possibility to find the means leading to salvation;


 

Implicit desire ( baptism of desire) does not contradict extra ecclesiam nulla salus unless you assume it is explicit for us

 In the Catechism of Pope Pius X 27 Q is not contradicted by 29 Q unless you assume that those who have received implicit desire (baptism of desire) are explicit for us.
27 Q. Can one be saved outside the Catholic, Apostolic and Roman Church?
A. No, no one can be saved outside the Catholic, Apostolic Roman Church, just as no one could be saved from the flood outside the Ark of Noah, which was a figure of the Church.-Catechism of Pope Pius X 1905,Rome.
 
29 Q. But if a man through no fault of his own is outside the Church, can he be saved?
A. If he is outside the Church through no fault of his, that is, if he is in good faith, and if he has received Baptism, or at least has the implicit desire of Baptism; and if, moreover, he sincerely seeks the truth and does God’s will as best he can such a man is indeed separated from the body of the Church, but is united to the soul of the Church and consequently is on the way of salvation. -Catechism of Pope Pius X, Rome 1905
 
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On the University of Bristol video it is assumed that ' a ray of Truth' mentioned in Nostra Aetate 2 is explicit for us. So Nostra Aetate is considered an exception to the traditional teaching on salvation i.e 27 Q of the Catechism of Pope Pius X.
This is objectively wrong.
-Lionel Andrades