I met Fr.Marco Hausmann briefly this morning and he confirmed that he still believes that we cannot physically see people saved with the baptism of desire etc and there are no such cases in 2015.
He also laughed when I asked him this question again. A few Sundays back he agreed that there were no known exceptions to the traditional interpretation of extra eclesiam nulla salus.We do not know of anyone who is an exception or will be an exception. This is known only to God.
I have to keep asking this question,"Can we see the dead- saved, are they physically visible to us" since an error was made in the Letter of the Holy Office 1949 when Cardinal Francesco Marchetti Selvaggiani criticized Fr.Leonard Feeney and the St.Benedict Center .He criticized them for not accepting the baptism of desire etc as an exception to the traditional interpretation of the dogma.Since then most Catholics believe that the dead saved as such are physically visible to us , for them to be exceptions to the 'rigorist interpretation' of the dogma.They would have to be visible and known tobe exceptions to all needing to formally enter the Catholic Church to avoid the fires of Hell.
Last week a Brazilian priest also confirmed that there are no known exceptions to extra ecclesiam nulla salus as it was known over the centuries. Another Brazilian priest who offered Mass in Italian a few years back said the same thing.So have other priests in Rome who offer the Novus Ordo Mass.They say the baptism of desire is not an exception to the traditional Feeneyite version of no salvation outside the Church.They have responded to the two questions I have asked them.
The same two questions answered by them are not being responded to by the Auxiliary Bishops of Rome and some cardinals here.
In other words, the priests are saying that there is nothing in Vatican Council II to contradict the dogma. Vatican Council II is traditional on other religions and Christian communities. Since LG 16,LG 8,UR 3,NA 2 etc would refer to only possibilities which would be followed with the baptism of water since this is de fide. Every one defacto needs the baptism of water for salvation. There is nothing referred to in Vatican Council II which would be a known exception to the interpretation of the Church Councils. popes,saints and Fr.Leonard Feeney.
-Lionel Andrades
There are no exceptions to the dogma extra ecclesiam nulla salus. Invincible ignorance and the baptism of desire are not defacto exceptions-Fr.Marco Hausmann FSSP
http://eucharistandmission.blogspot.it/2014/12/there-are-no-exceptions-to-dogma-extra.html
http://eucharistandmission.blogspot.it/2014/12/there-are-no-exceptions-to-dogma-extra.html
There are no exceptions to the dogma extra ecclesiam nulla salus. The baptism of desire is not a defacto exception says a Brazilian priest today
http://eucharistandmission.blogspot.it/2015/01/there-are-no-exceptions-to-dogma-extra.html
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