Pat Archbold every one with no exception in 2015 needs to ' have their Catholic membership cards stamped and notarized' .This is official according to magisterial texts.

Other Catholics, over reacting to the non-Catholic interpretations of the relevant teaching, overreact by going full-Feeney on the question, condemning all who don’t have their Catholic membership cards stamped and notarized.-Patrick Archbald, Extra Ecclesiam Nulla Salus: A Question of Emphasis
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Patrick Archbald, like the Society of St.Pius X and the Slaves of the Immaculate Heart of Mary, Fr,Leonard Feeney's community in the USA, does not realize that the Letter of the Holy Office 1949 during the pontificate of Pope Pius XII made an objective error.The same error is placed in Vatican Council II.It is not detected by them.

The Letter of the Holy Office made a mistake when it inferred that the baptism of desire and being saved in invincible ignorance are exceptions to the dogma extra ecclesiam nulla salus.

It also made a mistake when it assumed that there were previous magisterial documents which said that being saved with  implicit desire or invincible ignorance are exceptions to the dogma .There is no such reference!

Firstly it assumes that the baptism of desire etc refer to objective cases in the present times. Then it presumes that these objective for us cases are exceptions to all needing to be formal members of the Catholic Church for salvation.It is a fact that we do not know and cannot know any one saved with the baptism of desire. It is an objective error to assume that these deceased are personally known to us in the present times, as if we could name them.

Secondly magisterial documents only refer to the baptism of desire and being saved in invincible ignorance. Mystici Corporis and the Council of Trent do not state that these cases are known to us or an exceptions to all needing to be formal members of the Catholic Church.So their is no magisterial precedent which says that there are exceptions to extra ecclesiam nulla salus.

This was the error made in the Letter of the Holy Office 1949 and it was carried over into Vatican Council II by Cardinal Richard Cushing. the Archbishop of Boston.He was supported by the Jesuits and the secular media.The Archbishop had still not lifted the excommunication of Fr.Leonard Feeney in 1962-65 and he was still expelled from the Jesuit community.He refused to say there were known exceptions to the dogma.

 

Patrick Archbald has accepted the Cushing error i.e there are known exceptions to extra ecclesiam nulla salus in the present times.There are no known exceptions! There is no known salvation outside the Church. This was the Holy Office 1949 mistake.Cardinal Francesco Marchetti Selvagianni who issued the Letter made an objective mistake.

This was not corrected by Cardinal Joseph Ratzinger. He has changed Catholic theology with this objective error. It can be seen in two theological papers of the International Theological Commission which he approved . They are Christianity and the World Religions and The Hope of Salvation for Infants who die without baptism.The New Theology is based upon this error.It implies that we can see the dead who are now saved in Heaven.

The Feeneyite position is the official teaching of the Catholic Church. It is supported in Ad Gentes 7, Catechsim of the Catholic Church 846,1257 ( in part, since the error is incorporated in CCC 1257),the dogma defined by three Church Councils, and the Nicene Creed ( I believe in one baptism for the forgiveness of sin - and not three or more known baptisms which exclude the baptism of water).

There are two questions which Patrick Archbald could answer. 1 He could then review his interpretation of Vatican Council II and the Letter of the Holy Office and then 'go full-Feeney' .

 

Every one with no exception in 2015  needs to ' have their Catholic membership cards stamped and notarized' .This is official( AG 7, CCC 1257,846, Cantate Domino, Council of Florence 1441,Nicene Creed).This is necessary.Since he does not know of any exception and no Church document before 1949 said there are any.

-Lionel Andrades

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TWO QUESTIONS

1) Do we personally know the dead now saved in invincible ignorance, a good conscience (LG 16) etc,can we see them, are they physically visible to us in 2014 ?

2) Since we do not know any of these cases, in real life, they are not visible for us, there are no known exceptions to the literal interpretation of the dogma extra ecclesiam nulla salus, or Ad Gentes 7 which states 'all' need 'faith and baptism' for salvation ?

Is the answer YES or NO?