Thursday, April 16, 2015

Church Militant TV could produce a video for the CDF-SSPX Reconciliation

Ryan Fitzgerald, Producer and Simon Rafe, Executive Producer,  at Church Militant TV could produce a video saying the Congregation for the Doctrine of the Faith (CDF), Vatican should encourage the SSPX and the CMRI to enter the Catholic Church, with full canonical status , by proclaiming correct Catholic doctrine themself.The SSPX/CMRI beef is with doctrine.The present doctrine affirmed by the CDF is irrational, non traditional, non-Catholic and heretical. It is based on an objective error which would be detected even by non Catholics.There has been no denial so far from the CDF/Ecclesia Dei to these charges in many reports posted on the Internet.
As mentioned in a previous post the Church Militant TV comment on its Facebook page was incomplete.1 Ryan Fitzgerald and Simon Rafe must be objective and Catholic.They need to show how there is so much misinformation on this subject in all camps.
 
Let Church Militant TV state its position on these six points. Don't send me an e-mail but mention it on your Facebook page.
1.
Pope Benedict XVI said the issue is doctrine. Can Vatican Council II can be interpreted with or without the Marchetti-Cushing error ?.
Are orthodox passages contradicted or not contradicted by the Richard Cushing Additions in Vatican Council II ?  2.For me there is a choice. One choice is irrational.Cardinals Francesco Marcheti Selvaggiani and Richard Cushing chose the irrational option.This one infers, for example, that the baptism of desire and being saved in invincible ignorance , refer to known persons this year.Then it was inferred that these known cases were exceptions to the traditional interpretation of the dogma.They would have to be known to be exceptions.
This must be talked about. Since it is a valid reason for the SSPX rejecting the Muller-Ladaria-Pozzo interpretation of Vatican Council, with this Marchetti-Cushing irrationality.It was unfortunately approved by Pope Benedict XVI.
This is also the irrational option accepted by Simon Rafe at Church Militant TV in my past communication with him.Simon says the Church says that the baptism of desire and invincible ignorance are exceptions to the dogma.Yes.So it is correct for him, even when we do not personally know any exceptions and no magisterial document before 1949 makes this claim? Is not the Church after 1949 contradicting the Church before 1949 with an irrationality? How can the dead in Heaven be living exceptions to the dogma according to the Church before 1949? At one time the Magisterium must be wrong.
2.
The secular media uses an irrational premise which is "We can see the dead who are now in Heaven, we can physically see them in Heaven and on earth".
They then make an
irrational inference which is " Since we can see people in Heaven saved without the baptism of water and formal entry into the Church, there is known salvation outside the Church and these cases are an explicit exception to the traditional interpretation of EENS."
Their conclusion is : Vatican Council II is a break with EENS
The SSPX also makes this same error : irrational premise, inference and conclusion. They reject the result and so reject Vatican Council II. The CDF also uses the  irrational pattern but they accept Vatican Council.It is a Vatican Council II which becomes irrational,non traditional and heretical.It is the same Council text but two interpretations. One rational and the other irrational.
 This  needs to be discussed on a video.
 
3.
The SSPX General Chapter issued a doctrinal statement in 2012 seeking to enter the Church canonically, when it affirmed the dogma extra ecclesiam nullas salus with no exceptions.This is traditional Catholic doctrine. Why cannot the contemporary Magisterium accept this?
Would not its rejection by any Catholic be heresy and schism? Why cannot Ryan Fitzgerald say this on a video ?
4.
For the contemporary Magisterium at the Vatican, the Nicene Creed's 'I believe in one baptism for the forgiveness of sins', has really changed to, 'I believe in two or more baptisms for the forgiveness of sins and they exclude the baptism of water. They are the baptism of desire, baptism of blood, seeds of the Word (AG 11), imperfect communion with the Church (UR 3), a ray of that Truth which enlightens all men' (NA 2) etc.'

Why must the SSPX accept all this nonsense in the name of Vatican Council II ?
Is not the contemporary magisterium in schism?
Is it not a mortal sin to change the Nicene Creed, reject a dogma defined by three Church Councils and to interpret Vatican Council II with an irrational premise, inference and conclusion after being informed ? Is this not a mortal sin  for Church Militant TV staff ?
 
5.

In the past ecclesiology was always exclusivist. So where is the New Revelation for the CDF to reject the old ecclesiology and create a new one ?
Cardinal Gerhard Muller, Prefect of the CDF should state that the baptism of desire and being saved in invincible ignorance are not known to us in personal cases in April 2015. So they cannot be exceptions to the traditional interpretation of the dogma extra ecclesiam nulla salus.Ecclesiology will not have changed.

He should announce that the International Theological Commission, Vatican made this objective error in two theological papers, overseen by the Secretary of the CDF, Cardinal Luz Ladaria S.J.Cardinal Muller was also a member the ITC committees.They should issue an apology.
The CDF must announce that the ecclesiology of the Catholic Church is still exclusivist even if there  are protests from the Jewish Left magisterium.
 
6.
The CDF and the SSPX could choose to interpret Vatican Council II without the false premise,inference and conclusion.So could ChurchMilitant TV staff.
Could someone be in schism for affirming traditional Catholic teaching and accepting Vatican Council II interpreted without the irrational premise, inference and conclusion? No!
-Lionel Andrades



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SSPX must continue to reject Vatican Council II and other magisterial documents interpreted with the false premise and conclusion : ChurchMilitant TV comment incomplete
 
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ORTHODOX PASSAGES
Therefore, all must be converted to Him, made known by the Church's preaching, and all must be incorporated into Him by baptism and into the Church which is His body. For Christ Himself "by stressing in express language the necessity of faith and baptism (cf. Mark 16:16; John 3:5), at the same time confirmed the necessity of the Church, into which men enter by baptism, as by a door. -Ad Gentes 7, Vatican Council II.
Basing itself upon Sacred Scripture and Tradition, it teaches that the Church, now sojourning on earth as an exile, is necessary for salvation. Christ, present to us in His Body, which is the Church, is the one Mediator and the unique way of salvation. In explicit terms He Himself affirmed the necessity of faith and baptism(124) and thereby affirmed also the necessity of the Church, for through baptism as through a door men enter the Church. -Lumen Gentium 14, Vatican Council II.
They are fully incorporated in the society of the Church who, possessing the Spirit of Christ accept her entire system and all the means of salvation given to her, and are united with her as part of her visible bodily structure and through her with Christ, who rules her through the Supreme Pontiff and the bishops. The bonds which bind men to the Church in a visible way are profession of faith, the sacraments, and ecclesiastical government and communion.-Lumen Gentium 14, Vatican Council II.
CUSHING ADDITIONS
Therefore those men cannot be saved, who though aware that God, through Jesus Christ founded the Church as something necessary, still do not wish to enter into it, or to persevere in it."(17) Therefore though God in ways known to Himself can lead those inculpably ignorant of the Gospel to find that faith without which it is impossible to please Him (Heb. 11:6)-Ad Gentes 7, Vatican Council II
Whosoever, therefore, knowing that the Catholic Church was made necessary by Christ, would refuse to enter or to remain in it, could not be saved.-Lumen Gentium 14, Vatican Council II
Catechumens who, moved by the Holy Spirit, seek with explicit intention to be incorporated into the Church are by that very intention joined with her. With love and solicitude Mother Church already embraces them as her own.-Lumen Gentium 14, Vatican Council II
Ecclesiology is not changed with I.I and BOD.It never was.Vatican Council II was always orthodox on salvation.The ecclesiology was exclusivist.
 
 
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