Saturday, April 25, 2015

SSPX must continue to reject Vatican Council II and other magisterial documents interpreted with the false premise and conclusion ? : ChurchMilitant TV still does not respond



SSPX must continue to reject Vatican Council II and other magisterial documents interpreted with the false premise and conclusion ? : ChurchMilitant TV still does not respond.

Is the contemporary Magisterium interpreting Vatican Council II with an irrational premise and inference ? There is no comment from Michael Voris.


Michael Voris uses the false premise, inference and conclusion in the interpretation of Vatican Council II and the dogma extra ecclesiam nulla salus, as does the Archbishop of Detroit, where CMTV is situated.So we cannot expect much from him here.He has to accept and teach the factual error of the Magisterium, to remain ' a card carrying Catholic'.

So it was no surprise in an Mic'd Up program when Michael  unleashed the propaganda against the Society of St.Pius X (SSPX) saying they were in schism, while he did not ask   John Allen ( National Catholic Reporter) on that same program,  how could he receive the Eucharist at Mass? 

Neither did he put any of the hard questions to Edward Pentin since Pentin,Allen and Voris reject the traditional rigorist interpretation of the dogma extra ecclesiam nulla salus. All three use the same irrationality. They will not discuss this or deny it.

So must the SSPX continue to reject Vatican Council II and other magisterial documents interpreted with the false premise and conclusion ? There is no answer from CMTV. Michael Voris, Simon Rafe and others at CMTV  are Catholics who claim others are in schism since the magisterium for them cannot be in heresy and schism. It is unthinkable or unsayable.


For centuries the Church always taught that one had to be ' a card carrying ' member of the Church, every one needed to be a formal member of the Church to avoid Hell. All need the baptism of water in the Catholic Church was the teaching of the Church Councils, popes and saints.Now Church Militant TV has changed it. They have accepted the change based on Marchetti's objective error.

The baptism of desire and being saved in invincible ignorance refer to known cases in the present times for Voris and Rafe. So Michael Voris presents the new theology.He says all who are saved are saved by the Church. This is the new ecclesiology based on visible for us exceptions to the dogma.

He asked Fr.Jonathan Morris whom did he know who did not need to enter the Church for salvation. He cannot ask his Archbishop whom does he know who is saved in invincible ignorance and the baptism of desire this year, without the baptism of water.

So school children in Detroit are officially taught that not every one needs to be a card carrying member of the Church.Why? SInce the liberal bishop in the diocese says so  and so does Church Militant TV.Michael Voris cannot say that books with an imprimatur carry a factual mistake on this issue.The entire new theology and ecclesiology is based on this factual error.

Cardinal Ratzinger accomodated the error in the Catechism of the Catholic Church and then consolidated it with a new Code of Canon Law which incorporates the mistake.If the dogma can be changed then so also moral theology. He approved of all those permutations, as if he knew Jesus would use those theories on the Day of Judgement.Cardinal Ratzinger was worth his weight in gold for the Masons.

So now it is all very convenient for CMTV.Imagine if  Michael Voris  said that every one needs to be a card carrying member of the Catholic Church for salvation. There would be an uproar from the Left. Archbishop Vignon has already told Michael Voris not to use the term Catholic .What would be his next move? 
So to compromise with the Left, Michael Voris does not affirm the rigorist interpretation of the dogma, says the SSPX is in schism and gives John Allen an easy pass.Welcome to the Church of Nice !
Mary Carberry (Divine Mercy Messages)  shut down her website and in her last message said that the forces of darkness would not allow her to continue.The forces of darkness would also be putting pressure on Michael Voris.They could have asked him to change the crypto Lefebvre image.
So now he does not advocate  the Traditional Latin Mass only.He does  not even emphasize it as in the past. He says the SSPX is in schism and he does not state that the magisterium has made an objective error in the interpretation of Vatican Council II and that  this error is there in the Catechism of the Catholuc Church 1257 etc.
CMTV is politically correct like Cardinal Dolan.They both do not  want to be sued by the Left.Both are compromising  Church doctrine.
I appreciate all the good work done by Michael.Though he is now part of the establishment.He has to protect the interests of the many people he employs. This is also the reason why bishops and cardinals whom he criticises are not affirming the dogmatic teachings of the Church. They have to protect their property etc.
Even David Obeid an apologist in Australia who appeared on Mic'd Up is not affirming the strict interpretation of the dogma, since he does not want his colleges to be targeted by the bishops or the Left. He does not want the bishop to tell Catholics not to attend his college as once Cardinal Richard Cushing placed a ban on Fr.Leonard Feeney and the St.Benedict Center in Boston..
CMTV is not saying the obvious - that the magisterium made a factual error in the Marchetti Letter.This was carried over into Vatican Council II and the Catechism of the Catholic Church.
The same error is being repeated  by Michael Voris.  
-Lionel Andrades

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