For you UR 3 and LG 8 are exceptions to the dogma.Why? Who do you know today who is saved as mentioned in UR 3,LG 8?

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2. @AndradesLionel BOD and BOB are not exceptions to EENS. You die as a Catholic as an exception to Baptism not Church membership.
3. @IAltare I agree they are not. Lionel says : So are there exceptions to EENS in VC2?
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1. Lionel says : LG 16 is an exception to EENS for the SSPX, CMRI, MHFM,MICM. Also for you ?
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   @AndradesLionel The exceptions lie in UR #3 as well as LG # 8. LG 8 tells us there is something called the Church of Christ which is
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6. Lionel says : The dogma says every one needs to be a formal member of the Catholic Church for salvation, every needs to enter the Church.
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    @IAltare The exceptions lie in UR #3 as well as LG # 8... Lionel says : Are you saying that these are known cases today? You know some such case.

@IAltare Third: I don't need to "know" someone... Lionel says :How can being saved with elements of sanctification and truth (LG 8) be relevant to EENS?

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   @IAltare Third: I don't need to "know" someone to be ... Lionel says: When there are no known cases for us how can LG 8 and UR 3 be exceptions to EENS?
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   @IAltare Third: I don't need to "know" someone to be saved as..
   

   Lionel says: So when there are no known cases on earth how there be exceptions to EENS?
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   @IAltare Third: I don't need to "know" someone to be saved as.. Lionel says :So when there are no known cases for us, how can they be exceptions to EENS?
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   @IAltare Third: I don't need to "know" someone to be saved as in LG 8...
   

   Lionel says : We humans cannot know.Such cases would only be known to God.Not us.
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   @IAltare Third: I don't need to "know" someone to be saved as in LG 8... Lionel says : Neither does Cardinal Napier know any such case today.
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11. @AndradesLionel Third: I don't need to "know" someone to be saved as in LG 8...

    Lionel:You don't know. Neither do I.
12. -Lionel Andrades