Thursday, July 30, 2015

When you read something on Vatican Council II in the Catholic Herald, Rorate Caeili etc consider if it is liberal propaganda put out to save their skin

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The Catholic Herald,U.K had a report 'Blackfen priest resigns from active ministry' and Rorate Caeili and the LMS Chairman blog carried developed that report. The pictures were unpleasant. Sad. I thought to myself, the power of the demons... The power of the impure spirits and a lack of precaution.Though, that priest can still come back once he changes the dominant spirit troubling him.
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Luke Coppen editor of the Catholic Herald and Joseph Shaw ( LMS Chairman blog) have their own demons to exorcise.They both are not affirming the Catholic Faith. If it is the spirit of the world and insecurity which holds them back, I would not know.That priest was denying the Faith and he chose to leave while Coppen and Shaw are also denying the Faith but choose to remain in the Catholic Church.
Luke Coppen and Joseph Shaw deny the Catholic Faith and maintain their careers related to the Church.Shaw is Chairman of the Latin Mass Society in England and a member of its international body approved by the Vatican. Coppen projects issues in the Catholic Herald, related to the Church.
But there is a topic neither of the two will touch.The same is the case with Rorate Caeili( New Catholic and other correspondents).It is too sensitive.So they are unwilling to even discuss it.The subject is : Vatican Council II and extra ecclesiam nulla salus, both interpreted without the Marchetti irrational premise and inference.
The subject is Vatican Council II in which Lumen Gentium 16 ( saved in invincible ignorance) is seen as invisible,implcit, subjective and theoretical for us instead of not visible, explicit, objective and seen in the flesh in 2015.
If they both say that the baptism of desire(BOD)  and being saved in invincible ignorance(I.I) are known only to God and are invisible for us, then BOD and I.I do not contradict  the rigorist interpretation of the dogma EENS. BOD and I.I are not exceptions to Feeneyism.
If they say that we humans cannot see or know any exception to EENS in 2015 , then Vatican Council II ( AG 7- all need faith and baptism) is traditional on exclusive salvation in the Catholic Church.
This would mean AG7, LG 14 is Feeneyite and Vatican Council II is saying all Hindus, Buddhists, Jews, Muslims and Christians (Protestants etc) need to formally enter the Church for salvation. Will Coppen and Shaw say this ? No!
 Vatican Council II is really saying the Prophet Mohammad was oriented to Hell since he did not have faith and baptism at the time of death.Will they say this as Catholics? No!
Lumen Gentium 14 says those who know about Jesus and the Church and do not enter are on the way to Hell.Mohammad and Muslims of his time knew.
Vatican Council II (AG 7,LG 14) is saying all Muslims ( and other non Catholics) are on the way to the fires of Hell and we have Lumen Gentium 16 etc referring to invisible for us cases in 2015.So they cannot be exceptions to Ad Gentes 7.
When will Coppen and Shaw affirm this Catholic teaching? 
It was easy for the Catholic Heald,LMS Chairman and Rorate Caeili to write about that priest.It was easy for Michael Voris and Christine Niles at Church Militant. com too.Yet we know that they too have problems of their own. They too want to preserve their interests and keep their careers.Shaw does not want to be dismissed from Oxford University as a professor of philosophy and theology.Coppen likes his job at the CH, which is full of compromise.
There are blasphemy laws in England which seem biased in favour of Muslims.Would Coppen and Shaw be able to say that the Catholic Church teaches in Vatican Council II that all Muslims are oriented to Hell as was the founder of their religion ?
A few months back a Muslim judge in England legally charged a Christian ( not the Irish pastor case) as being Islamophobic and penalised him.Yet that judge affirms the Quran which says Christians believe in three gods.This is false.Christians believe in one God. Yet no Christian protestes this legally against that Muslim judge.
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So now we know that the Catholic Church teaches that Muslims are oriented to Hell ( AG 7, LG 14, CCC 1257, Dominus Iesus 20, Redemptoris Missio 55 etc).Vatican Council II, agrees on Islam ,with the popes and saints of the past. Will you be able to read an artilce about this on the Catholic Herald, U.K, LMS Chairman blog or Rorate Caeili ?
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The Catholic Herald and Rorate Caeili have pulled down comments on EENS since the Jewish Left protested. They consider EENS Anti-Semitic and anti Vatican Council II ( with the irrational premise/ LG 16 is visible).
 Yet Vatican Council II (without the irrational premise and inference) indicates all the Jewish members of the Jewish Anti Defamation League (ADL) are eternally lost unless they convert into the Catholic Church before death.
Similarly all the members of the Church of England, all the Protestant and non Catholic  members of the British Parliament, need to have Catholic Faith; they need to be formal members of the Catholic Church to avoid Hell. This is Vatican Council II (AG 7,LG 14).Catholic Faith includes the Sacraments and the faith and moral teachings to avoid mortal sin and preserve Santifying Grace.
So the next time you read something on Vatican Council II, in Rorate Caeili, the Catholic Herald or Joseph Shaw's blog, consider, if it is only liberal propaganda- put out to save their skin.-Lionel Andrades
The Grand Secret : Vatican Council II says all Hindus, Buddhists, Jews, Muslims, Protestants etc are lost

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