Tuesday, August 25, 2015

It is magisterial to accept BOD, BOB and I.I as being implicit instead of explicit, invisible instead of visible : it is also traditional and rational

When it is said that the baptism of desire( BOD), baptism of blood ( BOB) and invincible ignorance(I.I) are magisterial and we must follow the magisterium of the Church remember they were made magisterial in the Baltimore Catechism(1808).It happened when these cases were 1) assumed to happen without the baptism of water and were 2) considered explicit, seen in the flesh and known in personal cases and so were 3) placed in the Catechism section on the necessity  of baptism.
Immagine correlataNo one in 1808, Baltimore, USA knew of a person saved 1) without the baptism of water.2) No one knew of an objective case on earth who was saved without 'faith and baptism' but with BOD,BOB or I.I.3) No one could claim that there was such an objective case and so BOD and BOB were 'baptisms' .So how could BOD and BOB be placed in the Baltimore Catechism under the baptism-category? This was  modernism and heresy.It was official in the Baltimore Catechism.It contradicted the Nicene Creed which says 'I believe in one baptism for the forgiveness of sin'  and not three known baptisms.
This cannot be magisterial.It is heresy.It contradicts the Nicene Creed, the dogma extra ecclesiam nulla salus and the pre-1808 magisterium.Vatican Council II emerges as a break with Tradition.

Anyway we can still affirm the pre-1808 magisterium, Vatican Council II and the Catechism of the Catholic Church (1995) rationally.This is done by making the explicit-implicit, objective-subjective, visible-invisible distinction.
We accept all references to BOD, BOD and I.I.
We accept them as magisterial.
We accept them as theoretical possibilities. They can only be accepted as hypothetical, theoretical possibilities, since there are no known cases.
We accept these theoretical cases as including the baptism of water.Since this is magisterial in the dogma extra ecclesiam nulla salus and the Nicene Creed.
We accept them as being implicit and not explicit, invisible and not invisible, to be known only to God and unknown to us humans. So they are not relevant or exceptions to traditional extra ecclesiam nulla salus or the Nicene Creed.They do not contradict the Athanasius Creed on the necessity of being a member of the Catholic Church for salvation.
In this way we harmonize the pre -1808 magisterium with the 2015 magisterium (Vatican Council II, Catechism(1995) etc).

So it is magisterial to say that BOD,BOB and I.I are always hypothetical possibilities, not defacto known but accepted in principle ( de jure).So they do not contradict the strict interpretation of extra ecclesiam nulla salus or the old ecclesiology associated with the Traditional Latin Mass.
This is magisterial according to the texts of magisterial documents ( Vatican Council II, Catechism of the Catholic Church 1995, Catechism of Pope Pius X etc).
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Immagine correlataWhen we read the Baltimore Catechism we have to note that BOD and BOB refer to hypothetical cases and so are not defacto known.They are not objective cases in the present times.
It also means the Letter of the Holy Office 1949 has made an objective mistake. There were no exceptions to the interpretation of Fr.Leonard Feeney. There could not be any exception in 1949 Boston.
It also means that the International Theological Commission has made an objective mistake in two of its theological papers.The ITC assumed  Lumen Gentium 16 is an exception to the Feeneyite version of the dogma on exclusive salvation.It is visible instead of invisible.
Paul Kramer
The  SSPX, sedevacantists CMRI, MHFM and others have made the same objective mistake in the interpretation of Vatican Council II, as have  the International Theological Commission.
Immagine correlataFr.Anthony Cekada, Fr.Paul Kramer, Fr.Jean Marie Gleize (SSPX, Econe), Fr.Pierpaolo Petrucci (SSPX,Italy), John Salza, Christopher Ferrara, John Vennari and Louie Verrechio have made the same error as the liberal cardinals Kasper and Koch.For all of them LG 16 is explicit instead of implicit, visible instead of invisible.
Immagine correlataThe same error unfortunately is also made by the St. Benedict Centers, the communities of Fr.Leonard Feeney in the USA. They always had it right on the dogma extra ecclesiam nulla salus and the Baltimore Catechism( as did Fr.Feeney himself)  but they interpret Lumen Gentium 16 as a break with the dogma.It other words it is explicit and not implicit, visible and not invisible.
-Lionel Andrades

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