Franciscans of the Immaculate Commissioner and Superiors Meeting : doctrine is not on the agenda

The Franciscans of the Immaculate Commissioner Fr. Sabino Ardito SDB is in contact with some of the Superiors of the religious community and it seems the issue of  doctrine is not on the agenda. The Commissioner was to meet the Superiors this month and the meeting is considered private.

The Franciscans of the Immaculate priests who offer only the Traditional Latin Mass (TLM) are being forced to accept the new ecclesiology with Lumen Gentium 16 in Vatican Council II being explicit and an exception to extra ecclesiam nulla salus (EENS).

 The Commissioner nor the Secretary General will clarify if LG 16 can be considered implicit, invisible for them and known only to God.Is this an option open for the Franciscans  of the Immaculate community  in the interpretation of the Vatican Council II ? There is no comment from any one.

This is a doctrinal issue which divides the community and the Commissoner needs to be specific and clear.

The Secretary General of thte F.I and the former Commissioner over some three years would not comment on this doctrinal difference related to accepting Vatican Council II.

The Franciscan Sisters of the Immaculate clarified a few months back that they accept Vatican Council II but not as it was interpreted by the leftist newspapers in Italy. Pope Francis is  their pope they mentioned and they pray for him.

The Sisters did not clarify if LG 16 :-

1. Refers to explicit cases  in 2015 saved in invincible ignorance of the Gospel through no fault of their own.

2. Refers to known cases of non Catholics saved without 'faith and baptism'(AG 7).

There are no known and visible cases this year of non Catholics saved without 'faith and baptism. Nor were there are known cases last year or the years before.This would be confirmed in agreement by the Franciscan Sisters of the Immaculate.

May be they could ask the Commissioner if he knows of any exceptions to the old ecclesiology.

 If the Franciscan Friars of the Immaculate priests are allowed to accept Vatican Council II with LG 16 being invisible and hypothetical  for them  then they would be accepting the old ecclesiology and rejecting the new ecclesiology ( based on an irrationality) supported by Pope Benedict and Pope Francis.

This will not be politically acceptable to the Left  nor would this be acceptable to many Friars who offer Mass in Italian.

Since rationality and faith are on the side of priests who offer the TLM with the old ecclesiology, the Commissioner will not want to discuss doctrine.It would not be approved by Cardinal Braz de Avez his superior.

The Friars who offer only the TLM must note that the issue is not Vatican Council II in general but specifically if LG 16, LG 8 ,NA 2, UR 3 etc refer to visible or invisible, explicit or implicit cases in 2015.

Since the real issue in this doctrinal disunity is ecclesiology, it is the dogma extra ecclesiam nulla salus.So an explicit for us LG 16 means there is a break with EENS.If LG 16 is implicit then Vatican Council II does not contradict EENS.Reason tells us that LG 16  can only be implicit.There is no other choice.

Once the Friars who offer only the TLM are clear on this point they can come out in the open and say that they accept Vatican Council II in which LG 16 is invisible and not visible, and so does not conttadict  the pre- Vatican Council II ecclesiololgy, that of the popes and saints, the Church Councils and the Church Fathers.

Then wait for the Commissioner to respond.He can no more say like Fr. Volpi that the Friars do not accept Vatican Council II .Since they would be accepting Vatican Council II without the the irrationao inference and they would be expecting him to do the same.

-Lionel Andrades

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