Thursday, September 10, 2015

How can Fr. Kramer and Fr. Cekada come out in public and say they were wrong all these years?

I am asking something very difficult of Fr. Paul Kramer and Fr. Anthony Cekada. Since after years of condemning Vatican Council II I am asking them to say that the Council is traditional on salvation and that it is even Feeneyite and not ambigous.
I am also asking them to consider that Feeneyism is the official teaching of magisterial documents including Vatican Council II- and that the present magisterium has made a factual mistake which was accepted by both priests.
This is too much for them!
They know that Lumen Gentium 16 (LG 16) is not an exception to the dogma extra ecclesiam nulla salus (EENS).This changes the premise and inference  which they used over the years.
Without the old premise and inference, how can they interpret Vatican Council II 2 and accept different conclusions, this is not easy for them.
A young Catholic who has not had the two priests religious formation, would find it simple to see that the Council does not contradict EENS and the Syllabus of Errors.He would simply have to avoid the irrationall premise and inference.Then interpret Vatican Council II in line with Fr.Leonard Feeney and the Council of Florence.This would be easy even if this young Catholic had not studied theology.
For Fr.Kramer and Fr. Cekada it is going to be difficult to mentally and emotionally make the U-turn.If they interpret Vatican Council II without the premise ( the dead in Heaven are explicit) and the inference( these deceased in Heaven are visible exceptions to EENS on earth and they can be seen without the baptism of water) then they would be in opposition to their sedevacantist bishops and would have to change their lifestyle.
How can they come out in public and say that they were wrong all these years?
They can no more make Vatican Council II the basis for sedevacantism. LG 16 they know is not explicit ( the premise is rejected here) and so LG 16 is not an exception to the traditional interpretation of EENS( the inference is rejected here).This will be noticed over time by their colleagues and students.It's something obvious.
It is obvious that people now in Heaven with BOD or BOB cannot be exceptions to EENS.
Vatican Council II (AG 7, LG 14) is pro-Feeneyism.While LG 16, LG 8, NA 2, UR 3 etc not being explicit, do not contradict  AG 7 and LG 14.
-Lionel Andrades


Fr.Paul Kramer and Fr.Anthony Cekada cannot know of any physical exception to EENS: There are no explicit cases of BOD and BOB
http://eucharistandmission.blogspot.it/2015/09/frpaul-kramer-and-franthony-cekada.html

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