Wednesday, December 2, 2015

Cardinal Sarah and Bishop Schneider do not confess the Catholic Faith when they deny the dogma extra ecclesiam nulla salus


VATICAN CITY — Earlier this month, Pope Francis stirred controversy when he expressed comments about intercommunion while addressing a gathering of Lutherans in Rome.
Responding to a question from a non-Italian Lutheran woman who voiced her regret that she couldn’t receive Holy Communion with her Catholic husband, the pope said that while he would never dare give permission for her to receive the Eucharist because it’s not his competence or jurisdiction, he said she should “talk to the Lord and then go forward.”
Owing to confusion over the pope’s words, we asked Cardinal Robert Sarah, Prefect of the Congregation for Divine Worship and Discipline of the Sacraments, and Bishop Athanasius Schneider of Astana, Kazakhstan, for their opinion on the matter.
Cardinal Sarah offered initial comment, saying: “Intercommunion is not permitted between Catholics and non-Catholics. You must confess the Catholic Faith. A non-Catholic cannot receive Communion. That is very, very clear. It’s not a matter of following your conscience.”
You must confess the Catholic Faith says Cardinal Robert Sarah, to receive the Eucharist. Agreed.But it is not the Catholic Faith when he and Bishop Athanasius Schnieder deny the catholic dogma extra ecclesiam nulla salus.
It is not the Catholic Faith when they infer that LG 16 is an exception to the dogma , in other words it is a reference to an explicit case, for it to be an exception.
It is also not a witness to the Catholic Faith when Cardinal Sarah does not respond to this charge of denying the Faith, when I ask him about it on Twitter.Similarly Bishop Athansius Schneider does not answer e-mails and repeats the same political pitch on Vatican Council II, which he rejects because of assuming LG 16 is explict and an exception to the traditional Feeneyite version of the dogma extra ecclesiam nulla salus(EENS).
Yes the Lutherans should not be receiving the Eucharist since according to EENS they are outside the Church and they are on the way to Hell.
They are outside the Church according to Vatican Council II which says all need faith and baptism for salvation and they do not have the faith needed for salvation.
-Lionel Andrades

Joseph Shaw could discuss the theological difference between Cushingism and Feeneyism and its effect on the liturgy

The issue of Cushingism as a theology, which is irrational, popular, heretical, based on a fantasy-but magisterial needs to be discussed by the Latin Mass Society

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