Tuesday, December 22, 2015

Vox Cantoris contradicted by John Vennari and others : they can see Cushingite ghosts today!

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When Vox Cantoris says, 'there is no salvation outside the Catholic Church. None will get to Heaven. All will go to Hell for all eternity. We cannot know if any one will be saved outside the Church.We cannot know who are saved outside the Church and who these people are. We cannot say if in fact any particular person will be saved ', he is referring to December 2015. Today. Today all need to convert into the Church. All need to be defacto members of the Catholic Church with 'faith and baptism'(AG 7, LG 14) to avoid Hell. All.

All. This is Feeneyite.Vatican Council II supports Fr. Leonard Feeney.
So is the baptism of desire and blood  and being saved in invincible ignorance relevant  to the dogma extra ecclesiam nulla salus ? If all need to formally convert into the Catholic Church to avoid Hell it means we do not and cannot know of any baptism of desire or blood case ? We cannot know of someone who will go to Heaven in invincible ignorance and without the baptism of water?
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This was the position of Fr. Leonard Feeney of Boston. He said every one needs to convert into the Church for salvation and there are no exceptions. The baptism of desire was not relevant to the dogma for him.
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Yet Archbishop Augustine di Noia and so many Catholic religious leaders consider the baptism of desire etc as being an exception to the dogma extra ecclesiam nulla salus. 1 In an interview with Edward Pentin for the National Catholic Register Archbishop Di Noia indicated that he knew an extra ordinary Protestant, an Anglican, who would be saved even though he was not in the Catholic Church.He said this in response to Pentin's question on extra ecclesiam nulla salus.
Vox Cantoris says we cannot know any one today who will be saved outside the Church, who does not need to be a member of the Catholic Church. The CDF Archbishop has said he does know.
Even John Vennari wrote  an article recently 2 in which he supported the dogma extra ecclesiam nulla salus and even quoted Cantate Dominio Council of Florence 1441. Yet there was no mention of Fr. Leonard Feeney in that report even though the priest from Boston also supported that same dogma.Since for John Vennari the baptism of desire etc refer to explicit cases and so are exceptions to Cantate Dominio, Council of Florence.This is the position of the SSPX bishops, Angelus Press etc.
So while Vox Cantors says there are no exceptions to the dogma extra ecclesiam nulla salus John Vennari, John Salza and Louie Verrecchio cannot say the same thing. For them there are known exceptions to the dogma in 2015. They can see Cushingite ghosts!
-Lionel Andrades

Elementary My Dear Watson!


John Vennari is not aware of the heresy of Cushingism


Vox Cantoris : There is no salvation outside the Catholic Church. None will get to Heaven. All will go to Hell for all eternity.


True or False Pope

Salza-Siscoe have not discussed these points on No Salvation Outside the Church so Vatican Council II is a break with the dogma extra ecclesiam nulla salus http://eucharistandmission.blogspot.it/2015/12/salza-and-siscoe-have-not-touched-these.html

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Cardinal Tarcisio Bertone in a Letter to the Chief Rabbinate of Israel said Jews do not need to convert in the present times http://eucharistandmission.blogspot.it/2015/12/cardinal-tarcisio-bertone-in-letter-to.html

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