Wednesday, January 13, 2016

Roberto Mattei accepts this invisible-visible distinction made by the contemporary magisterium. It is not irrational for him.It is not heretical. Since he uses this same reasoning to interpret Vatican Council II

Based on historical Church censures, Pope's interreligious video induces heresy, scandalous to faithful
Roberto de Mattei has not said that the video contradicts the dogma extra ecclesiam nulla salus since he and the SSPX have rejected the dogma assuming there are explicit cases of persons saved with the baptism of desire.They are saved without the baptism of water in the Catholic Church, for him.
For Prof. Robert de Mattei all need to enter the Church for salvation except for those saved with the baptism of desire and blood and in invincible ignorance. They are all saved for Mattei without the baptism of water in the Catholic Church. This is how he interprets Vatican Council II (LG 16 etc) and the Letter of the Holy Office 1949.
This is heresy but it is magisterial heresy so no one questions him or the SSPX.

 Therefore, that one may obtain eternal salvation, it is not always required that he be incorporated into the Church actually as a member, but it is necessary that at least he be united to her by desire and longing..-Letter of the Holy Office 1949

'it is not always required that he be incorporated into the Church' is the magisterial teaching accepted by Roberto de Mattei.

Here is more heresy and irrationality accepted by him and the SSPX.It's magisterial.

10. Exclusivist ecclesiocentrism—the fruit of a specific theological system or of a mistaken understanding of the phrase extra ecclesiam nulla salus—is no longer defended by Catholic theologians after the clear statements of Pius XII and Vatican Council II on the possibility of salvation for those who do not belong visibly to the Church (cf, e.g., LG 16; GS 22).-International Theological Commission, Christianity and the World Religions 1997. (1)

So there is no exclusivist ecclesiocentrism for Cardinal Muller, but so what, neither is it there any more for Prof. Roberto de Mattei.

International Theological Commission (ITC)
58. In the face of new problems and situations and of an exclusive interpretation of the adage: “salus extra ecclesiam non est”, the magisterium, in recent times, has articulated a more nuanced understanding as to the manner in which a saving relationship with the Church can be realized. The Allocution of Pope Pius IX, Singulari Quadam (1854) clearly states the issues involved: “It must, of course, be held as a matter of faith that outside the apostolic Roman Church no one can be saved, that the Church is the only ark of salvation, and that whoever does not enter it, will perish in the flood. On the other hand, it must likewise be held as certain that those who live in ignorance of the true religion, if such ignorance be invincible, are not subject to any guilt in this matter before the eyes of the Lord”-The Hope of Salvation for Infants who die without being baptized(2007. International Theological Commission) http://www.vatican.va/roman_curia/congregations/cfaith/cti_documents/rc_cti_index-doc-pubbl_en.html

'the magisterium, in recent times, has articulated a more nuanced understanding as to the manner in which a saving relationship with the Church can be realized.' and Roberto de Matti and the SSPX  have accepted it even though it is heresy. It contradicts the exclusivist ecclesiocentrism which was the theology of the Church over centuries. This was the theology associated with the Traditional Latin Mass.

66. In his encyclical Mystici Corporis, Pius XII addresses the question, How are those who attain salvation outside visible communion with the Church related to her? He says that they are oriented to the mystical body of Christ by a yearning and desire of which they are not aware (DS 3821).-Christianity and the World Religions 2007

So in other words  they who are ,'outside the visible communion with the Church' are visible and known, so they are  related to the Church.Invisible cases are visible.These persons with the 'yearing and desire' are personally known in specific cases. So they become exceptions, to the interpretation of the dogma extra ecclesiam nulla salus, according to Fr. Leonard Feeney.If they were invisible they could not be related to the Church since they could not be exceptions to the dogma extra ecclesiam nulla salus(EENS).They would be irrelevant and un related to ecclesiology or soteriology.
So even though he says they are outside the visible communion with the Church, according to his theology, the new theology, they are visible to be relevant to the dogma EENS and to be exceptions to the old ecclesiology associated with the Latin Mass.
 Roberto Mattei accepts this invisible-visible distinction made by the contemporary magisterium. It is not  irrational for him.It is not heretical. Since he uses this same
irrational and heretical reasoning to interpret Vatican Council II. 
-Lionel Andrades


DECEMBER 17, 2010


PROF.ROBERTO DE MATTEI DOES NOT ANSWER WRITTEN QUESTION AT CONFERENCE http://eucharistandmission.blogspot.it/2010/12/profroberto-de-mattei-does-not-answer.html



Prof. Roberto de Mattei also uses apparition theology
http://eucharistandmission.blogspot.it/2015/05/prof-roberto-de-mattei-also-uses.html

Legion of Christ universities in Rome have compromised to remain legal

http://eucharistandmission.blogspot.it/2015/05/legion-of-christ-universities-in-rome.html

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Cristina Siccardi ,Paolo Pasqualucci use the irrational inference in the interpretation of Vatican Council II
http://eucharistandmission.blogspot.it/2014/06/cristina-siccardi-paolo-pasqualucci-use.html

Winter for the Catholic Faith in England
http://eucharistandmission.blogspot.it/2014/05/winter-for-catholic-faith-in-england.html

P. Paolo Scarafoni LC (a sinistra) insieme ai reverendi conferenzieri nella biblioteca universitaria

Fr.Paolo Scarafoni L.C and Roberto de Mattei at the European University in Rome are denying the Catholic Faith for personal reasons

http://eucharistandmission.blogspot.it/2014/03/frpaolo-scarafoni-lc-and-roberto-de.html

Father Paolo Scarafoni L.C, Rector of the University of Europe in Rome is still teaching theology with error

http://eucharistandmission.blogspot.it/2014/03/father-paolo-scarafoni-lc-rector-of.html



They asked me if I thought Roberto dei Mattei and Bruno Gherardini were wrong

http://eucharistandmission.blogspot.it/2014/03/they-asked-me-if-i-thought-roberto-dei.html





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