Friday, February 19, 2016

Their interpretation cannot be the teaching of the Holy Spirit.Since the Holy Spirit cannot teach an irrationality nor teach something new, which is a break with the old magisterium of the Catholic Church.

Comments from the blog post :
The Vatican Curia and Newman Theological College,Canada have to use an irrationality to interpret magisterial documents as a break with EENS 
http://eucharistandmission.blogspot.it/2016/02/the-vatican-curia-and-newman.html



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Remnant Clergy:
So would all the people who were physically unable to even hear of the Catholic Church, such as native Indians of North America before Christianity got to them, all damned without exception?

Lionel:
Yes this was the teaching of the Catholic Church for centuries until an error was made in the Baltimore Catechism and the Letter of the Holy Office to the Archbishop of Boston 1949.Then the error was placed in Vatican Council II indirectly in UR 3, LG 8, AG 11 etc and directly in LG 14. LG 14 suggests only those who know need to enter the Church formallly for salvation.
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Same for Buddhists in China or any other similar circumstance.
Lionel:

Yes.
Vatican Council II (AG 7, LG 14) also says all need faith and baptism for salvation. Most people we know, die without Catholic Faith. They are oriented to Hell.
This is the pre and post Vatican Council II official teaching of the Catholic Church.It is interpreted with Feeneyism as a theology and without irrational Cushingism.
Cushingism, is named after Archbishop Richard Cushing and the Jesuits of that time in Boston.It suggests there are known exceptions to the Feeneyite interpretatiom of the dogma extra ecclesiam nulla salus.
1.If there are known exceptions, then the implication is that there are people in Heaven saved without the baptism of water and they are personally known, physically visible to be exceptions to the centuries old interpretation of the dogma on salvation.They would have to be known to be an exception. They would have to be visible and not invisible. So we know that this proposition is fantasy.
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Or, it means there are known persons on earth, who we know, will be saved without 'faith and baptism'.This is not possible. Since this can be known only to God.

In faith, following the perennial magisterium of the Church guided by the Holy Spirit, we know that most people are oriented to the fires of Hell since they die without Catholic Faith. Catholic Faith includes the Sacraments and the faith and moral teachings of the Church.

This means rejecting the teachings of the contemporary magisterium, which uses irrational Cushing theology, to interpret Vatican Council II, the Catechism of the Catholic Church etc.Their interpretation cannot be the teaching of the Holy Spirit.Since the Holy Spirit cannot teach an irrationality nor teach something new, which is a break with the old magisterium of the Catholic Church.

So one can still follow the perennial magisterium and accept Vatican Council II and the Catechism of the Catholic Church (1992) interpreted with rational and traditional Feeneyism - and wait for the contemporary magisterim and the traditionalists to catch up.
-Lionel Andrades




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