Wednesday, March 16, 2016

CMTV ON OUTSIDE THE CHURCH THERE IS NO SALVATION

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CMTV ON OUTSIDE THE CHURCH THERE IS NO SALVATION

I am sorry to say that theologically they (CMTV) reject the dogma outside the Church there is no salvation.
Michael has said on a CMTV program that not every one needs to be a card carrying member of the Church.
He means those who are saved in invincible ignorance or the baptism of desire are known cases saved without the baptism of water. So they are known exceptions to the dogmatic teaching on all needing to be formal members of the Church for salvation for him. So for him not every one needs to enter the Church.

He contradicts himself.

The same error is made in the teaching of Catholic schools children in Religion Class in Detroit and CMTV does not do a program on this.

Michael remains political correct with the Left on this issue since he interprets the dogma extra ecclesiam nulla salus and Vatican Council II with Cushingism i.e there are known exceptions to EENS and they include the baptism of desire etc.

He remains in good standing with the Curia in Detroit. They also say not every one needs to be a card carrying member of the Church.Since there are exceptions.There are persons saved in invincible ignorance and the baptism of desire and blood.In other words these are not hypothetical cases but living and known people, for them to be exceptions.

He is in step with the magisterium at the Vatican. They interpret Vatican Council II as a break with the interpretation of the dogma on exclusive salvation. For them LG 16 refers to known cases.It is the same also for Michael Voris and Simon Rafe.
If you say that LG 16 according to common sense refers to an invisble case, known only to God Simon Rafe would consider you anti-Catholic.

Without this irrationality, used in the interpretation of EENS and the Council, Vatican Council II(AG 7, LG 14) would be saying all Jews and Muslims need to formally convert into the Church to avoid Hell.Vatican Council II would be Feeneyite. This is something they want to avoid.
When Christine Niles on the program on extra ecclesiam nulla salus(Mic'd Up) read out the text of the dogma extra ecclesiam nulla salus, from Cantate Dominio, Council of Florence 1441, she skipped past the reference to the 'Jews'.She did not want to offend them.I think it is the same with Michael.
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It was a good program by Christine and I hope she produces another such one. However she supported the position of the contemporary magisterium on the Letter of the Holy Office 1949 which she quoted. The Letter assumes the baptism of desire and being saved are not just hypothetical cases but actual living and known people. So they are inferred to be exceptions or relevant to the intepretation of the dogma according to Fr.Leonard Feeney. She approved the magisterial heresy.

-Lionel Andrades

https://eponymousflower.blogspot.it/2016/03/father-michael-muller.html?showComment=1458158168080#c5768714343457013371




What is the name of a Spiritual Director who uses Feneeyism as a theology in the Catholic Church and who inteprets Vatican Council II with Feeneyism Michael Voris?
http://eucharistandmission.blogspot.it/2015/12/what-is-name-of-spiritual-director-who.html


Michael Voris does not say every one needs to be a card carrying member of the Church for salvation. For him there are exceptions.



So many thousands of Catholic students in Michigans Catholic schools have to interpret Vatican Council II with an irrationality and CMTV keeps quiet

http://eucharistandmission.blogspot.it/2015/09/so-many-thousands-of-catholic-students.html


CMTV and the Archdiocese of Detroit

April 21, 2015

Bishop Arturo Cepeda, Director of the Department of Evangelization, Catechesis and Schools,Detroit has no denial : he agrees an irrationality is taught to Catholic school children http://eucharistandmission.blogspot.it/2015/04/bishop-arturo-cepeda-director-of.html

School children in the Archdiocese of Detroit have to use an irrationality to interpret Vatican Council II http://eucharistandmission.blogspot.it/2015/04/school-children-in-archdiocese-of.html


Michael Voris has compromised and wants the SSPX to do the same

http://eucharistandmission.blogspot.it/2015/09/michael-voris-has-compromised-and-want.html

Fr.John Zuhlsdorf and Michael Voris remain politically correct
http://eucharistandmission.blogspot.it/2015/09/according-to-fr.html

Church Militant TV has missed the point.The doctrinal issue has still not been touched by Pope Francishttp://eucharistandmission.blogspot.it/2015/09/church-militant-tv-has-missed-pointthe.html


The truth can be costly even for Michael Voris 

http://eucharistandmission.blogspot.it/2015/07/the-truth-can-be-costly-even-for.html





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