Monday, April 4, 2016

Pope Benedict's Avvenire interview contradicts the SSPX General Chapter Statement on extra ecclesiam nulla salus and Vatican Council II


During the pontificate of Pope Benedict when the SSPX was invited into the Church Bishop Bernard Fellay held a General Chapter Meeting 1 to discuss this issue.A statement was issued on Catholic doctrine. It said that the SSPX affirms the dogma extra ecclesiam nulla salus (EENS) with no exceptions.Now  however , Pope Benedict,  'broke his silence', as it as been reported, and said the dogma EENS does not exist any more as in the 16th century. It has been developed by Vatican Council II.

LG 16 REFERS TO VISIBLE CASES FOR THE MAGISTERIUM
This is the official position also of Pope Francis and the Jesuits. For them Lumen Gentium 16,Vatican Council II, 2 refers to a visible and not invisible case and that too without the baptism of water. It is an example of salvation outside the Church. So the dogma EENS has been superseded with Vatican Council II for the magisterium.
It is important to note that the Vatican has  pinned their whole new theology on LG 16 etc being explicit and not invisible for us.

WE HAVE IDENTIFIED THE SCAM
Now that we have identified their weakness, their scam,Catholics simply have to say that LG 16 refers to invisible and not visible cases. We cannot physically see or know any exceptions to EENS in 2016. This is common knowledge.
Once the ordinary lay Catholic asserts himself on this point the two popes will have to come in line with the SSPX General Chapter Statement.
The SSPX is presently divided. On their web page they have an article by Fr.Francois Laisney which infers there are known exceptions to the dogma EENS. So for him as expected, LG 16 would refer to visible and not invisible cases. Since LG 16 etc contradicts the dogma EENS he rejects Vatican Council II! 

HELP TRADITION
Catholic laymen and women associated with the SSPX can come to the help of Tradition by announcing in some way, that LG 16 refers to invisible cases for us. The baptism of desire and blood, of the Letter of the Holy Office 1949 can only be invisible for us.Being saved with the 'seeds of the Word' (AG 11) and 'many elements of sanctification and of truth are found outside of its visible structure.' (LG 8) also refer to what is hypothetical, invisible, theoretical, known only to God if they exist....

NO PHYSICAL EXCEPTIONS TO EENS
LG 8, AG 11 etc cannot be examples of known salvation outside the Church in the present times, since physically there is no known salvation outside the Church for us human beings.There cannot be known salvation outside the Church for us and if there are no known cases of salvation outside the Church how can there be exceptions to the dogma EENS? Zero cases of something are not exceptions to the dogma extra ecclesiam nulla salus says the apologist John Martignoni.

VATICAN COUNCIL WILL SUPPORT TLM 'IDEOLOGY'
Once this information is out it will be the liberals who will stop citing Vatican Council II. Since there will be no text in the Council to contradict EENS and the traditional ecclesiology on Judaism and Islam.The SSPX willl not have to reject Vatican Council II on this point and be considered 'schismatic'.This Vatican Council II would support the old ecclesiology, associated with the Traditional Latin Mass and which Pope Francis considers 'ideological'.
He presently only permits the Traditional Latin Mass when it is  offered by 'non ideological groups'.They are those who do not consider LG 16 as being invisible.

THEOLOGY WOULD BE TRADITIONAL AGAIN
Making this information known would be the first important step to bring Rome back to the faith, as Archbishop Lefebvre wanted.Once important lay Catholics say LG 16 refers to invisible cases, some 70- plus years of theological sham, from long before Vatican Council II, will be exposed. It can then be corrected.Theology would once again be traditional.
-Lionel Andrades


1
This is why its seems to us opportune to reaffirm our faith in the Roman Catholic Church, the only Church founded by Our Lord Jesus Christ, outside of which there is no salvation and no possibility of finding the means that lead to it...-SSPX General Chapter Statement 2012 http://rorate-caeli.blogspot.com/2012/07/declaration-of-general-chapter-of.html  http://www.dici.org/en/news/society-of-st-pius-x-general-chapter-statement/


2.
Those also can attain to salvation who through no fault of their own do not know the Gospel of Christ or His Church, yet sincerely seek God and moved by grace strive by their deeds to do His will as it is known to them through the dictates of conscience.-Lumen Gentium 16, Vatican Council II

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