Comments from the blog Musings of a Pertinacious Papist
Mr. Andrades,
Thanks for the explanation. Put simply, then, the concern you raise is at the very heart of the Church's Mission, as well as at the heart of the slough of indifferentism that currently afflicts the Church, the collapse of her mission work, widespread lack of concern over formal Church membership and the sacraments of the Church, much less an ascetical spirituality of penance. Thanks for putting it all into a nutshell like that. So the issue comes down to our having no known cases of known salvation outside formal membership in the RCC, though allowing the hypothetical possibility of God saving some in invincible ignorance or via the 'baptisms' of desire, blood, etc.?
Thanks for the explanation. Put simply, then, the concern you raise is at the very heart of the Church's Mission, as well as at the heart of the slough of indifferentism that currently afflicts the Church, the collapse of her mission work, widespread lack of concern over formal Church membership and the sacraments of the Church, much less an ascetical spirituality of penance. Thanks for putting it all into a nutshell like that. So the issue comes down to our having no known cases of known salvation outside formal membership in the RCC, though allowing the hypothetical possibility of God saving some in invincible ignorance or via the 'baptisms' of desire, blood, etc.?
Lionel:
Yes!
I am glad you have understood what I have been saying! Praised be Jesus and Our Lady.
I am glad you have understood what I have been saying! Praised be Jesus and Our Lady.
Yes! - ' the issue comes down to our having no known cases of known salvation outside formal membership in the RCC, though allowing the hypothetical possibility of God saving some in invincible ignorance or via the 'baptisms' of desire, blood, etc ( which would include the baptism of water)- and it still would be hypothetical and a possibility known only to God.
-Lionel Andrades
-Lionel Andrades
https://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=6312447&postID=4630628273980093465&page=1&token=1459949725638
In the hierarchy of values of Pope John Paul II, we are dealing with first class heresy
http://eucharistandmission.blogspot.it/2016/04/on-hierarchy-of-values-of-pope-john.html
The Catechism and Vatican Council II are not a break with the dogma EENS unless invisible and visible, hypothetical and objective cases are confused : how would Dr.Robert Hickson interpret CCC 1257 ?
http://eucharistandmission.blogspot.it/2016/04/the-catechism1992-and-vatican-council.html
Cardinal Ratzinger, Fr.John Hardon and Robert Hickson were interpreting the Catechism and Vatican Council II with irrational Cushingism as a theology
http://eucharistandmission.blogspot.it/2016/04/cardinal-ratzinger-frjohn-hardon-and.html
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