Saturday, May 21, 2016

CMTV, Steve Skojec, Louie Verrecchio proclaim the Catholic Faith - 1

Steve Skojec in a podcast asks what is wrong with the SSPX position doctrinally.

So I mentioned that the SSPX:-
1) has developed the teaching on Vatican Council II,2) developed the Nicene Creed and 3) developed the dogma extra ecclesiam nulla salus.

In contrast what do I believe as a  Catholic ?

Other Religions:
According to Vatican Council II (AG 7, LG 14) and the dogma extra ecclesiam nulla salus (Cantate Dominio, Council of Florence 1441) all non Christians are on the way to Hell without 'faith and baptism' in the Catholic Church. In general they are on the way to Hell and we cannot know of any exception.

Ecumenism/Christian religions
According to Vatican Council II (AG 7, LG 14) and the dogma extra ecclesiam nulla salus ( Cantate Dominio, Council of  Florence 1441) all non Catholics are on the way to Hell without Catholic Faith, which includes the Sacraments and the faith and moral teachings of the Catholic Church, necessary for salvation.In general they are on the way to Hell and here too we cannot know of any exception.

Religious Liberty
Since there is no salvation outside the Church the priority is the non separation of Church and State.
Since there is no salvation outside the Church  Christ the King, as known in the Catholic Church, must be the center of all political and social legislation.

Liturgy
Since there is no known salvation outside the Church, the ecclesiology of the Holy Mass, in every Rite, is always ecclesiocentric. There is no separation between Jesus and the necessity of the Church for salvation.The ecclesiology of the Tridentine Latin Mass before and after the Council of Trent is the same.

Nicene Creed.
Since there is no known salvation outside the Church the Nicene Creed still means "I believe in one baptism for the forgiveness of sins" and not "I believe in three or more known baptisms". 

Vatican Council II
Since there is no known salvation outside the Church, LG 16, LG 8, UR 3, NA 2 etc do not contradict the dogma extra ecclesiam nulla salus. They refer to hypothetical cases and so they cannot be explicit exceptions to all needing to be formal members of the Catholic Church, to avoid Hell.


Extra ecclesiam nulla salus
There are no known exceptions to the dogma extra ecclesiam nulla salus as it was known to the 16th century missionaries. No body in the past could have physically seen or known an exception. No one in the present times knows of an exception to the dogma which says all need to formally enter the Church to avoid Hell.The baptism of desire or being saved in invincible ignorance refer to hypothetical cases.So they cannot be an exception in 2016 to all needing to enter the Catholic Church,to be saved.

So this is what I believe as a Catholic and I have proclaimed it here.

Church Militant TV in its Download program yesterday(Friday) advised the bishops to proclaim the faith.Why don't they proclaim the Catholic Faith like I have done here? Say it clearly- that every one needs to be a 'card carrying' member of the church to avoid Hell.
Steve Skojec asks the cardinals and bishops to proclaim the Faith and says the SSPX is not wrong doctrinally.Then he could tell me where I am wrong in what I have stated above.If he cannot correct me then why does he also not proclaim the same Faith as I have done above.
Louie Verrecchio still interprets Vatican Council II with Cushingism( there are known exceptions to EENS) instead of Feeneyism( there are no known exceptions to EENS).This is how Pope Francis too interprets Vatican Council II.He is a Cushingite.
-Lionel Andrades



SSPX is in doctrinal error like the contemporary magisterium Steve Skojec http://eucharistandmission.blogspot.it/2016/05/sspx-is-in-doctrinal-error-like.html
1P5 Podcast: Episode 36 – Fed Up? Laugh & Keep Going.

So what is Steve to do ?

http://eucharistandmission.blogspot.it/2016/05/si-what-is-steve-to-do.html


Pastorally Pope John XXIII accepted exceptions to EENS and so traditional de fide teaching was rejected in 1962.This was the understanding of the cardinals and bishops too at Vatican Council II

http://eucharistandmission.blogspot.it/2016/05/pastorally-pope-john-xxiii-accepted.html


Watch the Full Show: ‘The Download—A Chosen People, a Holy Nation’

‘The Download—A Chosen People, a Holy Nation’

http://eucharistandmission.blogspot.it/2016/05/the-downloada-chosen-people-holy-nation.html

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