Thursday, May 5, 2016

You have to interpret it irrationally to make it an exception.

Comments from the blog Musings of a Pertinacious Papist : What was Cardinal Schönborn thinking?

Musings of a Pertinacious Papist
Hey, Lionel. You are not a Catholic for you deny that which axiomatically incurs ANATHEMA, , Capiche?
Lionel:
'The desire thereof' does not refer to a personally known, objective case.So it is not an explicit exception to EENS. For you it is an exception to extra ecclesiam nulla salus (EENS).
For me it is a hypothetical case. For you it is an objective case and so is relevant to EENS.
I can affirm 'the desiretherof' and also EENS according to the 16th century missionaries. It does not contradict the Principle of Non Contradiction.
For you 'the desirethereof' refers to explicit cases, this is irrational, objectively false and contradicts EENS as it was known over the centuries.
You have to interpret EENS with Cushingism ( the desire thereof is visible ) instead of Feeneyism( the desire thereof is invisible and hypothetical). This is HERESY.

_______________________
 
The Council of Trent
The Sixth Session
The canons and decrees of the sacred
and oecumenical Council of Trent,
Celebrated on the thirteenth day of the month of January, 1547.
DECREE ON JUSTIFICATION

CHAPTER IV.
A description is introduced of the Justification of the impious, and of the Manner thereof under the law of grace.
By which words, a description of the Justification of the impious is indicated,-as being a translation, from that state wherein man is born a child of the first Adam, to the state of grace, and of the adoption of the sons of God, through the second Adam, Jesus Christ, our Saviour. And this translation, since the promulgation of the Gospel, cannot be effected, without the laver of regeneration, or the desire thereof, as it is written; unless a man be born again of water and the Holy Ghost, he cannot enter into the Kingdom of God.

cannot be effected, without the laver of regeneration, or the desire thereof,
Lionel:
Which in all cases would include the laver of regeneration i.e the baptism of water.
You do not know of any exception and the text here does not state that 'the desire thereof' is an exception.It has to be wrongly inferred by you that 'the desire thereof' refers to an explicit case and is not hypothetical. It then becomes an exception to all needing the laver of regeneration.
You have to interpret it irrationally to make it an exception.Fundamental philosophy!
-Lionel Andrades


Part 1: Cardinal Schönborn's presentation in Austria of 'Amoris Laetitia'
https://youtu.be/0YCgrWiLlSc


Part 2: Cardinal Schönborn's presentation in Austria of 'Amoris Laetitia'
https://youtu.be/x500I7EKwXs


http://pblosser.blogspot.it/2016/04/what-was-cardinal-schonborn-thinking.html

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