July 14, 2016
Video interview with Gloria TV http://www.lmschairman.org/2016/07/video-intereview-with-gloria-tv.html
Video interview with Gloria TV http://www.lmschairman.org/2016/07/video-intereview-with-gloria-tv.html
Why do we need the Old Latin Mass?
We need the Old Latin Mass since it represents to us the theology and spirituality of the early ages of the Church.It comes to us from the eight century and before the eight century the Age of the Fathers and they have something to say to the Church of all ages.The spirituality of the Mass is the spirituality of the Church right up to the middle of the 20th century.That's something which is part of the Deposit of the Faith.-Joseph Shaw
Lionel:
This is not true. Joseph Shaw assumes hypothetical cases , without the baptism of water are known exceptions in 2016 to the dogma extra ecclesiam nulla salus and the old ecclesiology.This is irrational,non traditional and heretical. It is part of the ecclesiology of the Novus Ordo and Traditional Latin Mass today.
So the spirituality of the Old Mass has changed.It is not the same as during the time of the Church Fathers or even the 16th century missionaries who only had the Latin Mass.
If the philosophical innovation of being able to judge hypothetical cases as being visible was not there,we are back to the old ecclesiology of the eight century. Theology will not have changed.
Pope Francis is permitting the Latin Mass today only because it is not part of the Deposit of the Faith, theologically. So it becomes a break with old spirituality.
Joseph Shaw, John Lamont and Fr. Harrison object to the subjectivism of Amoris Laetitia but not to the subjectivism in a new theology, which contradicts the Principle of Non Contradiction.This is the staple ecclesiology of the Traditional Latin Mass.So many times I have written about this but Joseph Shaw will not comment. He, like Fr. Harrison and John Lamont would prefer to remain Anonymous on this issue.
Joseph Shaw and the Latin Mass Society need the approval of the English bishops and the Vatican. They are also politically correct with the Left on this issue.
The Benedictine Prior at Norcia also remains politically correct on this issue and so avoids commenting on what I keep writing. He could be one of the Anonymous signatories critical of Amoris Laetitia.
The new director of the Human Life International, Rome, Fr. Francesco Giordano could also be among the 'Anonymous Group'.He interprets the dogma extra ecclesiam nulla salus, as having 'developments', when he teaches this subject at the Pontifical University of St.Thomas Aquinas, Rome.He offers the Traditional Latin Mass and teaches the new theology, as he did, at the old Franciscan Friars of the Immaculate seminary in Boccea, Rome.Like Fr. Brian Harrison he remains non controversial and Anonymous on this issue.
Lionel Andrades
We need the Old Latin Mass since it represents to us the theology and spirituality of the early ages of the Church.It comes to us from the eight century and before the eight century the Age of the Fathers and they have something to say to the Church of all ages.The spirituality of the Mass is the spirituality of the Church right up to the middle of the 20th century.That's something which is part of the Deposit of the Faith.-Joseph Shaw
Lionel:
This is not true. Joseph Shaw assumes hypothetical cases , without the baptism of water are known exceptions in 2016 to the dogma extra ecclesiam nulla salus and the old ecclesiology.This is irrational,non traditional and heretical. It is part of the ecclesiology of the Novus Ordo and Traditional Latin Mass today.
So the spirituality of the Old Mass has changed.It is not the same as during the time of the Church Fathers or even the 16th century missionaries who only had the Latin Mass.
If the philosophical innovation of being able to judge hypothetical cases as being visible was not there,we are back to the old ecclesiology of the eight century. Theology will not have changed.
Pope Francis is permitting the Latin Mass today only because it is not part of the Deposit of the Faith, theologically. So it becomes a break with old spirituality.
Joseph Shaw, John Lamont and Fr. Harrison object to the subjectivism of Amoris Laetitia but not to the subjectivism in a new theology, which contradicts the Principle of Non Contradiction.This is the staple ecclesiology of the Traditional Latin Mass.So many times I have written about this but Joseph Shaw will not comment. He, like Fr. Harrison and John Lamont would prefer to remain Anonymous on this issue.
Joseph Shaw and the Latin Mass Society need the approval of the English bishops and the Vatican. They are also politically correct with the Left on this issue.
The Benedictine Prior at Norcia also remains politically correct on this issue and so avoids commenting on what I keep writing. He could be one of the Anonymous signatories critical of Amoris Laetitia.
The new director of the Human Life International, Rome, Fr. Francesco Giordano could also be among the 'Anonymous Group'.He interprets the dogma extra ecclesiam nulla salus, as having 'developments', when he teaches this subject at the Pontifical University of St.Thomas Aquinas, Rome.He offers the Traditional Latin Mass and teaches the new theology, as he did, at the old Franciscan Friars of the Immaculate seminary in Boccea, Rome.Like Fr. Brian Harrison he remains non controversial and Anonymous on this issue.
Lionel Andrades
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