Extra Ecclesiam nulla salus
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The Latin phrase extra Ecclesiam nulla salus means: "outside the Church there is no salvation". The 1997 Catechism of the Catholic Church explained this as "all salvation comes from Christ the Head through the Church which is his Body."
Lionel:"all salvation comes from Christ the Head through the Church which is his Body." is the new theology. It's aim is to accomodate hypothetical cases like the baptism of desire and being saved in invincible ignorance.
Lionel: No it does not come from him.This is a falsehood.Saint Cyprian of Carthage held the traditional interpretation of the dogma extra ecclesiam nulla salus.
Being saved in invincible ignorance etc referred to hypothetical cases which were not relevant or exceptions to the dogma extra ecclesiam nulla salus. So St.Cyprian of Carthage would not have been using the liberal theologians interpretations of the baptism of desire etc.
Lionel: It is not an axiom.It is a dogma defined by three Church Councils.
The Catholic Church also teaches that the doctrine does not mean that everyone who is not visibly within the Church is necessarily damned (see below).
Lionel: The contemporary magisterium wrongly teaches this.Since they assume hypothetical cases are explicit.They infer that these explicit cases( which are really invisible) are practical exceptions to the dogma extra ecclesiam nulla salus.
In this way, with this irrationality, the contemporary magisterium negates the pre Council of Trent magisterium.It taught that all need to enter the Church visibly for salvation.All need the baptism of water and the Catholic moral and faith teachings along with the Sacraments for salvation.
Some of the most pertinent Catholic expressions of this doctrine are: the profession of faith of Pope Innocent III (1208), the profession of faith of the Fourth Lateran Council (1215), the bull Unam sanctam of Pope Boniface VIII (1302), and the profession of faith of the Council of Florence (1442).
Lionel:They did not use the new theology to interpret the dogma.They held the strict interpretation of extra ecclesiam nulla salus as it was known for centuries before the Council of Trent.
The axiom "No salvation outside the Church" has been frequently repeated over the centuries in different terms by the ordinary magisterium.
Lionel: The ordinary magisterium has replaced the traditional Feeneyite theology with irrational and non traditional Cushingite theology.-Lionel Andrades