Wednesday, July 13, 2016

The Vortex On Being Saved can be used as a program for evangelising.It avoids getting into the new theology which creates confusion.

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It is time for Church Militant TV(CMTV) to get feedback from the professors of theology and philosophy,on their Vortex program On Being Saved.( The Vortex—On Being Saved  https://youtu.be/pDWeC5qsvew )


CMTV could ask if there were objections to the On Being Saved message.
Hypothetical cases like the baptism of desire cannot be objectively known in 2016.All must agree on this principle.It is a law of nature that we humans can distinguish between what is invisible and visible.The baptism of desire is a hypothetical case.
Also alleged baptism of desire cases in the past cannot be exceptions to the dogma extra ecclesiam nulla salus( or Ad Gentes 7,Lumen Gentium 16) in 2016.They are not visible in the present times.
This is my approach.I first affirm the dogma extra ecclesiam nulla salus (EENS9 . Then when there are objections;  references to Lumen Gentium 16, Lumen Gentium 8, Unitatis Redintigratio 3, Nostra Aetate 2 etc, I point out that we humans cannot know of any such case personally in 2016.So they cannot be exceptions.
Also we cannot say that someone in the past actually saw someone saved outside the Church i.e without faith and baptism.So these hypothetical cases are not exceptions to EENS.They would not be exceptions to the message On Being Saved.

We cannot meet any one saved with seeds of the Word(AG 11) in 2016.If someone was saved as such it would only be known to God.He would be a Catholic in Heaven,as On Being Saved says.




Similarly the Catechism of the Catholic Church's 1257, 846 are not exceptions to On Being Saved.Since there are no known cases of someone saved without 'faith and baptism', in 2016, ostensibly, since God is not limited to the Sacraments.
All need to defacto enter the Church with faith and baptism, even if God is not limited to the Sacraments(CCC 1257) and all who are saved are saved through Jesus and the Church(CCC 846).We have to be aware of the defacto,dejure( in principle) distinction and not confuse the two.
Yes all who are saved are saved through Jesus and His Mystical  Body the Church .All need to visibly enter the Church for salvation, as they physically entered the Ark of Noah to be saved from the deluge(CCC845).The Church is the only Ark of Salvation and God wants all people to be united in the Catholic Church(CCC 845).The Catholic Church is the ordinary means of salvation, it must be remembered in inter-religious dialogue(Redemptoris Missio 55).The dogma EENS is an 'infallible teaching' ( Letter of the Holy Office 1949, Second Part).
So the video On Being Saved is based on traditional Catholic theology while the second part of the Letter of the Holy Office 1949 violated the Principle of Non Contradiction.It assumed hypothetical cases of the baptism of desire were objectively known in those times(1949).So it postulated according to the dogma that all need to enter the Church( first part of the Letter,1949) but some do not need to do so, defacto( second part of the Letter).This was a mistake.
So objectively there cannot be any exception to the message of On Being Saved.
The Vortex On Being Saved  can be used as an evangelising  program.It avoids getting into the new theology which creates confusion.
-Lionel Andrades

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