eucharistandmission: Franciscan Friars of the Immaculate have to support a lie to offer the Traditional Latin Mass while the SSPX have also to maintain the lie to get canonical status

Wednesday, August 24, 2016

Franciscan Friars of the Immaculate have to support a lie to offer the Traditional Latin Mass while the SSPX have also to maintain the lie to get canonical status

The Franciscan Friars of the Immaculate (F.I) have to support a lie to offer the Traditional Latin Mass while the SSPX have also to maintain the lie to get canonical status.

They both have to interpret Vatican Council II with hypothetical cases not being hypothetical.They have to claim that these hypothetical references are explicit and objectively known.They both have to conclude that these alledgedly 'explicit cases' are exceptions to the traditional ecclesiology, the dogma extra ecclesiam nulla salus, the Syllabus of Errors and Tradition in general.

The Priestly Fraternity of St. Peter (FSSP) and the Institute of Christ the King Soverieign Priest, both traditionalist communities, have compromised and accepted the lie.They interpret Vatican Council II with this irrationality.So their priests are allowed to offer the Traditional Latin Mass.
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The Slaves of the Immaculate Heart of Mary,traditionalists, also interpret Vatican Council II with the lie.So they are allowed to have the Traditional Latin Mass at their premises in the dioceses of Worcester and Manchester,USA.

The Franciscan Friars of the Immaculate priests,on the other hand, have had their seminary taken away from them.They are not allowed to offer the TLM .They have been called 'crytpto Lefebvrists' by the late Fr.Fidenzio Volpi.

The other group of Franciscans of the Immaculate who offer Mass in Italian and do not offer the TLM, are approved by Pope Francis:Since they interpret Vatican Council II with the lie.

Archbishop Guido Pozzo and the rest of the Congregation for the Doctrine of the Faith( CDF) interpret Vatican Council II with this lie and next month, when talks resume with the SSPX, the whole world will watch.They will want to see if the SSPX accepts Vatican Council II with the lie or condones the lie, in the Vatican Curia, in exchange for canonical status.

I accept Vatican Council II without the lie.

I have chosen the rational option.I am also in accord with the old ecclesiology and Tradition. The Franciscans of the Immaculate and the SSPX could do the same.In fact all Catholics religious communities can do the same.

I avoid the lie.

Bishop Bernard Fellay and Archbishop Pozzo could do the same.

All Catholic professors can teach this.The can follow my example at the universities and seminaries. They simply avoid the lie in the interpretation of Vatican Council II and the Council changes.From being non traditional it changes to being traditional.They simply avoid the New Theology, which is based on the lie and the old theology emerges in the text of Vatican Council II.

Catholics do not know this.

The former Fischer More College faculty did not know this.They assumed that they key issue was the TLM.They did not know that the main issue was ecclesiology and it determined how the TLM was offered - with or without the lie.

Similarly for Fr.John Zuhlsdorf, the liturgy is the man issue.So he interprets Vatican Council II as a break with the dogma extra ecclesiam nulla salus (EENS) during Holy Mass.He cannot affirm EENS.He has to interpret EENS with exceptions; with the lie.So he maintains his incardination status in the Church.He does this by affirming a falsehood.

Like priests in general, he has to lie in theology, to keep his priestly status.

I attend the Traditional Latin Mass and the Novus Ordo Mass saying hypothetical cases are not explicit in real life. Fr. Z cannot say this on his blog.I cannot see any baptism of desire case in dowtown Rome. Fr.Z has to assume that all of can see these ghosts.
So ecclesiology for me is still the same as that of the 16th century missionaries.This is irrespective if I attend the Traditional Latin Mass, the Novus Ordo Mass, the Greek Byzantine or the Syro Malabar Mass.

-Lionel Andrades