Wednesday, September 28, 2016

At Catholic Answers Tim Staples and Patrick Coffin do not realize that the issue is faith.The discipline comes later.First there is a change in doctrine and then this is reflected in the new pastoral practise, the change in discipline. It is not vice versa.

Catholic Answers Live: "Radical Traditionalism"
https://youtu.be/Q4J8rOjgyuY

At  Catholic Answers  Tim Staples and Patrick Coffin do  not realize that the issue is faith.The discipline comes later.First there is a change in doctrine and then this is reflected in the new pastoral practise, the change in discipline. It is not vice versa.The cause of the problem is not just disciplinary.
The Priestly Fraternity of St.Peter affirm the faith interpreted with a non traditional theology and so the conclusion is non traditional.Catholic Answers does the same.They accept this conclusion with the new doctrines.
The Society of St. Pius X also affirms the faith interpreted with a non traditional theology and so the conclusion is non traditional.However they do not accept the conclusion and the new doctrines.So they cling to the Traditional Latin Mass which affirmed the old ecclesiology and they cite the saints who did not use the new theology to create new doctrines.
The sedevacantists do the same.
Let me be concrete.
The Priestly Fraternity of St. Peter affirm the dogma extra ecclesiam nulla salus as  Cushingites.They assume there are known exceptions to the Feeneyite interpretation of the dogma EENS.So they offer the Traditional Latin Mass rejecting the dogma EENS as it was interpreted by the 16th century missionaries.
Similarly they interpret Vatican Council II with Cushingism. LG 16 refers to known exceptions to the dogma EENS. So Vatican Council II for them is a rupture with EENS ( Feeneyite), the Syllabus of Errors and the rest of Tradition.
So the traditional Catholic faith-teaching has been changed. They have changed salvation theology with a new subjectivism. They assume we can see people saved with the baptism of desire, for example, in Heaven or on earth, without the baptism of water, and they ( unknown persons)  are exceptions to Feeneyite EENS.
They are simply following the New Theology which is magisterial, even though it is irrational, an innovation and heretical. It contradicts the Principle of Non Contradiction( how can we see or know a baptism of desire case?).
So like I said earlier at Catholic Answers Tim Staples and Patrick Coffin do not realize that the issue is faith.The discipline comes later.First there is a change in doctrine and then this is reflected  in pastoral practise. It is not vice versa.
As a Catholic who attends the Traditional Latin Mass and the Novus Ordo Mass my theology is Feeneyite. So Vatican Council II is not a break with the dogma EENS( Feeneyite).SInce I affirm EENS( Feeneyite) I am affirming the traditional ecclesiology of the Church.I am doing this without rejecting Vatican Council II and the dogma EENS.
So for me EENS( Feeneyite) and Vatican Council II (Feeneyite) says all Jews, Muslims, Protestants, Orthodox Christians and other non Catholics are oriented to the fires of Hell unless they are incorporated into the Catholic Church as members, with 'faith and baptism'(AG 7, LG 14).So I affirm Vatican Council II with the old ecclesiology.For me the new ecclesiology of  Catholic Answers and the FSSP is heretical, irrational and an innovation in the Church. It causes the hermeneutic of rupture with Tradition.It can be avoided by Catholic Answers. A rational choice is there.
So it cannot be said that I am a radical traditionalist who rejects Vatican Council II. Neither can it be said by the traditionalists that I reject EENS( Feeneyite).

-Lionel Andrades

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