Saturday, November 12, 2016

Lefebvrists should ask Fr.Alessandro Minutella to affirm the old ecclesiology supported by Vatican Council II when he offers Holy Mass in Italian.Those whom he calls 'integralists' should point out to him that Vatican Council II is traditional

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When it can be seen that Fr.Alessandro M.Minutella cannot present a rational theology, or any theology from Vatican Council II, to defend his new ecumenism and inter-religious dialogue, the Lefebvrists, should continue to affirm an ecumenism of return and also outside the Church there is no salvation for Hindus, Jews, Muslims  etc- and cite Vatican Council II.They must use Vatican Council II as their primary reference.Then they should ask Archbishops Pozzo and Di Noia at Ecclesia Dei, Vatican, to do the same.
Ask them to affirm the Feeneyite interpretation of the dogma extra ecclesiam nulla salus (EENS), as it was known to the 16th century missionaries.Since there is nothing in Vatican Council II to contradict it.There can be no exceptions to the dogma in the past or present, for us human beings.
Do not let Fr.Alessandro Minutella continue to say that the Lefebrists do not accept Vatican Council II so they cannot accept the new ecumenism.
Tell him that you accept Vatican Council II and an ecumenism of return and then cite the passages from Unitatis Redintigratio.
If he tries to fake it and cites UR 3( imperfect communion with the Church) as an exception to an ecumenism of return, tell him that this is a hypothetical reference.This cannot be an exception to the dogma EENs. An exception must be personally known and it must be different.It must exist.If there is one orange in a box of apples then the orange is an exception not only because it is different but because it exists there in that box.We cannot know of any one saved in 2016 in imperfect communion with the Church but outside the Catholic Church.There is no known case of 'an anonymous Christian' saved without Catholic faith.So tell Cardinal Gerhard Muller, the Prefect of the Congregation for the Doctrine of the Faith, Vatican, that for salvation, all Jews,Muslims etc need to formally enter the Church with 'faith and baptism'(Ad Gentes 7, Lumen Gentium 14).This is not just the teaching of the traditionalists but of Vatican Council II itself.The Council says Catholics are the new people of God(Nostra Aetate 4).
Lefebvrists should ask Fr.Alessandro Minutella to affirm the old ecclesiology supported by Vatican Council II when he offers Holy Mass in Italian.Those whom he calls 'integralists' should point out to him that Vatican Council II is traditional and they do not reject a rational interpretation of the Council.It has the hermenutic of continuity.
When Vatican Council II is not a rupture with Tradition and there is no ambiguity,created by confusing what is hypothetical as not being hypothetical, then the Novus Ordo Mass theologically should not be a rupture with Tradition.
Theologically the Mass which Pope Francis offers, is in harmony with the theology of the Mass in the 16th century which affirm the strict interpretation of the dogma extra ecclesiam nulla salus.
I don't think that there is any malice or ill will in what the good priest has said on the video. He is simply repeating the theological formation he has received at one of the pontifical universities in Rome. I appreciate his Marian devotion and have watched and shared some of his videos like the one at the tomb of Fr.Rotondo,Tre Fontane etc.He is doing good work on this subject of Our Lady's apparitions, which I have personally found useful.-Lionel Andrades
 
 
November 11, 2016

Fr.Alessandro M.Minutella has been teaching false doctrine on the dogma extra ecclesiam nulla salus and Vatican Council II : he assumes hypothetical cases are not hypothetical and so causes a rupture with Tradition

http://eucharistandmission.blogspot.it/2016/11/fralessandro-mminutella-has-been.html
 

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