So it is easy to talk about the exceptions in Amoris Laeititia for the scholars and the cardinals but it seems impossible for them to see the same error in salvation theology- since that will hit the purse.

Cannoli:
Welcome back.The last of many times you disappeared was when I asked you for your references for what you believe as a Catholic.
I cited Vatican Council II (AG 7, LG 14) and Cantate Dominio, Council of Florence 1441 for my rigorist and traditional interpretation of the dogma extra ecclesiam nulla salus.
You and your liberal friends at Catholic Answers and EWTN say there are exceptions. So I asked you, before you escaped, cite the exceptions in Vatican Council II or other magisterial texts and be rational and consistent.
The being rational and consistent is still the problem part for you as it is for the cardinals and the two popes.
You could cite Lumen Gentium 16( invincible ignorance) but wanted me to assume that it was a visible and known case in 2016. So only in this way you could get an exception to the Feeneyite interpretation of the dogma EENS.
For me LG 16 is not visible or relevant to the dogma EENS. So Vatican Council II cannot be a rupture with Tradition.I do not use subterfuge like the cardinals who have created a new theology based on LG 16 being visible.
So I repeat that my position on Vatican Council II is traditional and magisterial ( Vatican Council II, EENS, Catechism of Pope Pius X) while your position and that of Rahner, Kung, Ratzinger and Kasper, is non traditional and irrational. It is heresy and a rupture with the magisterium of the 16th Church.
This is an issue of the Catholic Church and not Mormon or Muslim doctrine.
However the implications are that Vatican Council II (AG 7 etc) is saying all Muslims and Jews are on the way to Hell and there are no known exceptions. This is terribly difficult for you to say. It is also difficult for John Henry Weston at LifeSites.com. Since they will come for his bank balance.
It is difficult for Michael Voris since they will accuse him of being Anti-Semitic.
It is difficult for you too. It is much easy to give positive waves and say not everyone this December needs to enter the Church. This is exactly what ecclesiastic Masonry has been telling us since 1949.So it is easy to talk about the exceptions in Amoris Laeititia for the scholars and the cardinals but it seems impossible for them to see the same error in salvation theology- since that will hit the purse.-Lionel Andrades

 

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