(1:16) "Extra ecclesiam nulla salus, black and white...it is not black and white.My understanding is that when the phrase was first used in the Patristic Period..."
Lionel:
It is heresy.It is non traditional and organised deception.
So the liberals and Masons have created a new extra ecclesiam nulla salus (EENS).It is EENS Cushingite.
EENS Cushingite is different from the traditional EENS Feeneyite, as it was known in the 16th century.
So now there is no more only one way to interpret EENS.
There is EENS in which there are visible cases of the baptism of desire (BOD) and being saved invincible ignorance(I.I) without the baptism of water in the Catholic Church.So all do not need to be members of the Catholic Church.
Then there is also the traditional EENS (Feeneyite) with invisible cases of the BOD and I.I which are not exceptions to the dogma on exclusive salvation in the Church and all need to be members.
For the English Archbishop and the Masons there is only EENS Cushingite.This is how they interpret EENS historically.
-Lionel Andrades
Theologians in Conversation; Extra Ecclesiam Nulla Salus
https://youtu.be/HrEnMM6aAv0
March 8, 2017
No denial from Archbishop Kevin Mcdonald, Tom O' Loughlin : there is an objective error in the text of Vatican Council II http://eucharistandmission.blogspot.it/2017/03/no-denial-from-archbishop-kevin.html
March 9, 2017
The dogma is absolutist and we do not know any one who is saved or going to be saved in another religion. http://eucharistandmission.blogspot.it/2017/03/the-dogma-is-absolutist-and-we-do-not.html
MARCH 4, 2017
English universities present a lie on Catholic theology and doctrine - unethical for academics http://eucharistandmission.blogspot.it/2017/03/english-universities-present-lie-on.html
MARCH 3, 2017
Adult Catholic tells lies on Internet
http://eucharistandmission.blogspot.it/2017/03/adult-catholic-tells-lies-on-internet.html
March 7, 2017
There is no Christian theology of religious pluralism : Masons, Pope Benedict and Pope Francis are wrong http://eucharistandmission.blogspot.it/2017/03/there-is-no-christian-theology-of.html
March 7, 2017
There is no Christian theology of religious pluralism : Masons, Pope Benedict and Pope Francis are wrong http://eucharistandmission.blogspot.it/2017/03/there-is-no-christian-theology-of.html
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