There are no physically visible cases of BOD and I.I in the present times and in the past.

So you see Lionel, Both BOB and BOD are CATHOLICS who are

 designated by the Catholics as Catholics by Catholics before they

 die. and Invincible Ignorance is left TOTALLY in the hands of God,

 like in BEFORE the Catholic Church spread its message throughout

 he world and those who for whatever reason cannot know the word

 of God on Salvation totally UNKNOWN to us mortals on earth.

Lionel:

O.K I agree with you.

So you see Lionel, Both BOB and BOD are CATHOLICS who are 

designated by the Catholics as Catholics by Catholics before they

 die. and Invincible Ignorance is left TOTALLY in the hands of God,

 like in BEFORE the Catholic Church spread its message throughout

 he world and those who for whatever reason cannot know the word 

of God on Salvation totally UNKNOWN to us mortals on earth.

We agreed that there are no physically visible cases 

of BOD and I.I in the present times and in the past.

So the reference above are to hypothetical cases.

 People not personally known ?

So would you agree that there are only invisible BOD

 and I.I cases?

Similarly would you agree that that LG 16 ( invincible

 ignorance) and LG 14( Catechumen who desires the 

baptism of water and dies before receiving it) refers

to invisible for us cases.

-Lionel Andrades