Franciscan Sisters of the Immaculate now Carmelites in England still interpret magisterial documents with an irrational premise : result is a rupture with Carmelite Rite

The Franciscan Sisters of the Immaculate in England  who have become Carmelite nuns and follow the old Carmelite Rite must realize that they still interpet magisterial documents including Vatican Council II with irrational Cushingism. So their theology, like the rest of the Church in Britain, is a rupture with the past; the past ecclesiology of the Carmelites included.

The Sisters can follow the Carmelite Rite but they must  affirm Vatican Council II (Feeneyite) and reject Vatican Council II ( Cushingite) even though it will be opposed by the Conferences of Catholic Bishops in England.

CARMELITES ALL OVER THE WORLD ARE CUSHINGITES

The Carmelites all over the world are Cushingites. Those who follow the old Carmelite Rite do so with the new theology, the new irrational theology, which produces a new conclusion, when interpreting magisterial documents, including Vatican Council II.

THEOLOGY AT HOLY MASS IS THE ISSUE

So the issue is not the liturgy or the Rite since even a priest who offers  Mass in English could reject the new ecclesiology based on the irrational premise and he would automatically be saying Mass with the past ecclesiology.This is the 'past ecclesiology'(Redemptoris Missio) rejected by Pope Benedict XVI, it comes from the Fr. Leonard Feeney case.

FR.STEFANO MANELLI F.I STILL DOES NOT CLARIFY

The Franciscans of the Immaculate were handicapped since their two founders also interpreted Vatican Council II with Cushingism. This was a break with Tradition.They did not know that they had a choice.

So they rejected Vatican Council II and believed that the only way to hold on to Tradition was the Tridentine Rite Mass.

We now have found the missing link.It is time to put it in action and express it in public.

NEW CARMELITES HAVE TO ACCEPT FALSE DOCTRINES.

So the new Carmelite Sisters still accept the false doctrines of the two popes.Without the new theology of the two popes Vatican Council II affirms the strict interpretation of the dogma extra ecclesiam nulla salus(EENS).Upon EENS (Feeneyite) we have a continuity with the past ecclesiology and the old concepts of ecumenism.With no known exceptions to EENS mentioned in Vatican Council II ( Feeneyite) all non Christians and non Catholics need to be members of the Catholic Church for salvation.

TRADITIONALISTS NOT DISCUSSING THE ISSUE

It is unfortunate that this issue is not being discussed by the traditionalists.Chris Ferrara, Roberto Dei Matteri, Rorate Caeili, Fr. Serafino Lanzetta and many others do not  admit that they were wrong all these years about Vatican Council II.Since Vatican Council II can now be re-interpreted without  the irrational premise and non traditional conclusion of the liberals.

If you consider the baptism of desire as being invisible or visible decides how you interpret Vatican Council II.

If you infer that the baptism of desire is visible you have a Vatican Council II which I callCushingite.

If you infer that the baptism of desire is physically invisiblefor us human beings, then you have a Vatican Council II which I call Feeneyite.

If the baptism of desire is visible then Fr. Leonard Feeney was in heresy and the magisterium in 1949 was correct.Since there would be exceptions to Tradition which he refused to acknowledge.

If the baptism of desire is invisible then it is the magisterium which was in heresy and Fr. Leonard Feeney was repeating orthodoxy.

It's as simple as this!

Cardinals Bugnini, Bea, Ottaviani etc were not responsible for the interpretation of Vatican Council II. Simply inverse the visible-invisible distinction and the interpretaton changes.

It is true that Fr.Karl Rahner S.j,Fr.Hans Kung and others decided the narrative of Vatican Council II,approved by the magisterium of Cardinal Ratzinger, but the Council can still be interpreted today independent of them.Change your perspective and the Council changes.Change the premise and you change the Church.

We've found the missing link. 

The secret is out.We are back to the old ecclesiology of the Church.

Most Catholics today,magisterium-included, whether they know it or not, infer that the BOD is visible for us human beings in 2017. So Vatican Council II (Cushingite) becomes a rupture with Tradition, it is a rupture with the dogma extra ecclesiam nulla salus (EENS) as it was known over the centuries.

IRRATIONALITY APPLIED TO AQUINAS

So we have an innovation with EENS.This is important to note.The liberals have re-interpreted the historical references to EENS.They re-interpret St. Thomas Aquinas(visible for usman in the forest in ignorance) etc.

We have visible for us baptism of desire(BOD) which is an explicit, seen in the flesh exception to the dogma EENS(Feeneyite).

So there is now an EENS with exceptions. I call it EENS(Cushingite).

EENS with no exceptions is the traditional Feeneyite EENS, as it was known  to the 16th century missionaries.

So today we have a Vatican Council II ( Cushingite) and an EENS(Cushingite). 

CUSHINGISM IS ILLOGICAL
Cushingism is based on hypothetical cases being not hypothetical. In other words BOD and being saved in invincible ignorance(I.I) refer to known cases of people saved without the baptism of water in the Catholic Church.This is irrational.They are in Heaven so how can they be known on earth. How can I also say that a saint in Heaven is a saint known to be there with the baptism of desire and without the baptism of water. Or without the baptism of desire but with invincible ignorance.How could someone in the past too make this claim.Physically no one in the past too could see people in Heaven there with the baptism of desire and the Church does not claim that any one had this special gift. This is also non traditional and heretical.

Vatican Council II and EENS , Cushingite,is defeatist, free-thinking,Lodge-theology, approved by the Masons.It is not Catholic.

VATICAN COUNCIL II FEENEYITE RIGID FOR POPE FRANCIS

Vatican Council II and EENS, Feeneyite is rational, traditional and non heretical. For Pope Francis it would be rigid, fundamentalist and triumphalistic.It would be restorationist.

ISSUE A STATEMENT

The Franciscan Sisters of the Immaculate, the traditionalists in general and the new Carmelites in England  could  issue a statement which says :-

1.They interpret Vatican Council II, the Catechism of the Catholic Church and the dogma extra ecclesiam nulla salus(Cantate Dominio, Council of Florence 1441) with the philosophy and theology of Feeneyism instead of Cushingism.

2.Since they reject Cushingism as a theology which is promoted also by Pope Benedict, Vatican Council II(F) is not a break with the dogma extra ecclesiam nulla salus(F), as it was known to the missionaries of the 16th century.So they reject Pope Benedict XVI's saying in March 2016 that extra ecclesiam nulla salus is no more like it was for the missionaries of the 16th century.

3.Since they affirm Vatican Council (F) they are in harmony with the the dogma EENS( F) as it was interpreted by St.Maximillian Kolbe and the saints and popes of the past.

4.Popes Francis,Pope Benedict and Cardinal Braz de Avez must stop being ideologues of new doctrine and they must affirm Vatican Council II, the Catechism of the Catholic Church and the dogma outside the Church there is no salvation, with Feeneyism instead of Cushingism.

-Lionel Andrades

JUNE 11, 2017

English Franciscan Sisters of the Immaculate become Carmelite Nuns : old rite with new ecclesiology, New Theology and new doctrines on salvation still obligatory http://eucharistandmission.blogspot.it/2017/06/english-franciscan-sisters-of.html

Franciscan Sisters of the Immaculate Fr.Stefano Manelli's interpretation of Vatican Council II and EENS was Cushingite : Lanzetta and Mattei also were irrational http://eucharistandmission.blogspot.it/2017/05/franciscan-sisters-of-immaculate.html

MAY 23, 2017

Franciscans of the Immaculate must oppose the new ideology of Pope Francis in a systematic way

http://eucharistandmission.blogspot.it/2017/05/franciscans-of-immaculate-must-oppose.html

FEBRUARY 13, 2017

Why must the Franciscans Sisters of the Immaculate and all Catholic religious communities have to accept BOD and I.I as being visible,objective,explicit and seen in the flesh in personal cases, for them to be accepted by Pope Francis and Cardinal Braz de Avez?.

http://eucharistandmission.blogspot.it/2017/02/why-must-franciscans-sisters-of.html