Monday, June 26, 2017

Pope Benedict permitted Fr. Jean Marie Gleize to lead in doctrinal talks since he was a liberal ?

Comment: Division: SSPX’s French District Argues Against Agreement
He(Fr.Gleize) is part of the problem.
He represented the SSPX in doctrinal talks with the Vatican which was approved by Cardinal Ratzinger.He was interpreting Vatican Council II and other documents with Cushingism and so was the Vatican side. He did not seem to have a clue to it.

Did Pope Benedict XVI permit Fr. Jean Marie Gleize to lead the SSPX side in doctrinal talks with the Vatican since he knew that he was a liberal who held there was known salvation outside the Church and so interpreted Vatican Council II with irrational Cushingism instead of the traditional Feeneyism, which the pope also rejected?
The SSPX-Vatican doctrinal talks were a failure. Both sides were interpreting Vatican Council II with Cushingism. The Vatican would accept the non traditional conclusion and the SSPX would reject the rupture with Tradition, in particular the dogma extra ecclesiam nulla salus(EENS).
So the talks became a simple formality. Neither of the two sides could say precisely what was the specific change in doctrine, other than it was visible that Vatican Council II( Cushngiite) was a rupture with EENS, the Syllabus of Errors etc.
Fr.Jean Marie Gleize who teaches Ecclesiology at Econe and was the leader of the SSPX group of theologians was 'Pope Benedict's man'.The talks were not going to get any where.
Since for Gleize too EENS was no more like it was for the missionaries in the 16th century since there was a 'development' with Vatican Council II ( Cushingite).Neither would Pope Benedict or Fr. Gleize would say in March 2016 that Vatican Council II ( Feeneyite) however would not be a development with the dogma EENS as it was known to the magisterium in the 16th
century.The pope through this interview in Avvenire publically announced the heresy and no one from the SSPX raised an objection.
Fr.Gleize and Pope Benedict were both liberals, knowing or unknowingly, I do not know.

Gleize had a golden moment to put things correct at the time of the doctrinal talks during the pontificate of Pope Benedict.

He could have called a press conference and announced :
1.Vatican Council II can be interpreted with Cushingism or Feeneyism and the Vatican Curia is using irrational Cushingism and so the conclusion is a rupture with Tradition.This is unacceptable.Rome must come back to the Faith.,
2.The SSPX chooses to interpret Vatican Council II with Feeneyism and so there is no 'development' with reference to the dogma EENS as it was known to the missionaries in the 16th century.
3.The CDF/Ecclesia Dei is interpreting all the Catechisms with irrational Cushingism and this is unacceptable.
4.The SSPX chooses to interpret the Catechism of the Council of Trent, Catechism of Pope Pius X, Baltimore Catechism and the Cathechism of the Catholic Church with rati

onal Feeneyite philosophy and theology.
5.The references to invincible ignorance and the catechumen who dies before he received the baptism of water which he sought and is yet saved, refers to physically invisible cases, hypothetical cases, people not personally known.So there is nothing in Mystici Corporis , Quanta Cura etc to contradict the 'rigorist interpretation' of the dogma EENS.
6.There is no doctrinal change in the pre and post Vatican Council II ecclesiology which is in harmony with the interpretation of the dogma EENS according to the missionaries in the 16th century. This must be accepted by all Catholics in including the CDF/Ecclesia Dei.There is continuity with EENS(Feeneyite), Vatican Council II( Feeneyite), Catechisms interpreted with Feeneyism.

-Lionel Andrades

June 24, 2017

Official statement from SSPX awaited : Fr.Gleize and other theologians have got it wrong…/frjean-marie-gl…

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