Friday, June 30, 2017

Tridentine Rite Mass in Rome is a sacrilege : needs to be challenged canonically

No priest in Rome would want to give his telephone number to defend the dogma extra ecclesiam nulla salus(EENS) or to interpret Vatican Council II in harmony with the dogma on exclusive salvation in the Church I mentioned in a previous blog post 1. In the catechesis which they are permitted they assume that there are known exceptions to the dogma EENS in 2017. They are only allowed to teach an irrationality at the churches.They have to say that invisible for us baptism of desire and being saved in invincible ignorance, are visible exceptions to EENS. They must teach that these invisible cases are objective exceptions to all needing to formally enter the Church. It is only with this irrationality that they are permitted by the Jewish Left and ecclesiastical Masonry to teach Catholic children the Catholic faith.No priest will give the parish phone number to explain the Catholic faith or defend a pamphlet which says all non Catholics need to enter the Catholic Church with 'faith and baptism'(AG 7) to avoid the fires of Hell for salvation, and there are no known exceptions in 2017.

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They cannot cite Vatican Council II or the Jewish Left rabbis and their supporters in Italy will object. Here is the passage in Vatican Council II which is in harmony with the dogma extra ecclesiam nulla salus( Cantate Domino, Council of Florence 1441) but it is kept a secret.
7. This missionary activity derives its reason from the will of God, "who wishes all men to be saved and to come to the knowledge of the truth. For there is one God, and one mediator between God and men, Himself a man, Jesus Christ, who gave Himself as a ransom for all" (1 Tim. 2:45), "neither is there salvation in any other" (Acts 4:12). Therefore, all must be converted to Him, made known by the Church's preaching, and all must be incorporated into Him by baptism and into the Church which is His body. For Christ Himself "by stressing in express language the necessity of faith and baptism (cf. Mark 16:16; John 3:5), at the same time confirmed the necessity of the Church, into which men enter by baptism, as by a door...
Finally, by means of this missionary activity, God is fully glorified, provided that men fully and consciously accept His work of salvation, which He has accomplished in Christ. -Ad Gentes 7, Vatican Council II

Every Catholic priest has to interpret the following passage in red as referring to a known case.He then has to infer that this physically visible case, this known person,  is an exception to the passage above from Ad Gentes 7.It is only then he can teach children.

Therefore those men cannot be saved, who though aware that God, through Jesus Christ founded the Church as something necessary, still do not wish to enter into it, or to persevere in it." Therefore though God in ways known to Himself can lead those inculpably ignorant of the Gospel to find that faith without which it is impossible to please Him...-Ad Gentes 7, Vatican Council II

If the passage in red is interpreted as being an invisible case in 2017 and so is  not an explicit exception to the dogma EENS and the orthodox passage above from Ad Gentes 7, then the  Catholic lay person or religious is not allowed to teach children the faith.
The passage in red has to be interpreted as 1) being objective in 2017 and 2) referring to someone saved outside the Church. So it becomes relevant to the dogma EENS.It is only then that the priest can teach catechism to the children or permit the nuns to do so.
So if there is a lay man like me who would want to teach catechism or who would want to distribute information on the faith stating that the passage in red refers to invisible cases in 2017, the priest will not provide premises to teach catechism, nor will he give his contact number for enquiries.
Why not? Since this irrational teaching is being protected by the Vicariate in Rome, the CDF/Ecclesia Dei and the Vatican Curia. For political reasons it is over seen by the rabbis Lara and Segni who are associated with Israel.They can use the Anti Semitism card when and however they want to.
So what is being taught to children in Catholic catechism classes is not really magisterial, it is not in harmony  for example with the magisterium of the 16th century. Instead it is political.

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This is the position of the FSSP traditionalist  parish in Rome where the Australian Fr. Joseph Kramer is the Parish Priest. I last saw him for the March for Life with his parishioners.He has to interpret the passage in red as referring to explicit cases.Then he has to infer that these 'objective' cases are physically visible exceptions to the dogma EENS.They would have to be physically visible to be exceptions.So he remains politically correct with the Left and offers this modernist Latin Mass at Santissima dei Pellegrini church.
In catechesis 1) he denies the Feeneyite interpretation of the dogma EENS and interprets Vatican Council II with an irrational premise( Cushingism) and has 2) changed the meaning of the Nicene Creed ( Cushingism) to be allowed to offer the Traditional Latin Mass.It is only because he has compromised on doctrine and theology that he is permitted to offer Mass as a break with the ecclesiology of the Tridentine Rite Mass of the 16th century.
Canonically a parishioner needs to challenge him. Since with first class heresy ( changing the Nicene Creed, changing or denying a de fide dogma like EENS, re-interpreting Vatican Council II with an irrationality when a rational choice is available...) his Mass is a sacrilege and is permitted only because it is a sacrilege and a rupture with Tradition.It is allowed by a corrupt magisterium.
I have mentioned all this before and have e-mailed him and the other FSSP priests in his parish.2 No one in the parish comments or denies what I have written. Since their priority is offering Holy Mass at any cost and pleasing the Vicariate and the Vatican.They know that the ecclesiology of their Tridentine Rite Mass is the same as the Novus Ordo Mass.It is a rupture with Tradition.
Also they know that in Catechism classes they are teaching errors.The passage in red above is an exception to the orthodox passage in Ad Gentes 7. They repeat the same error with Lumen Gentium 14 etc.They, the FSSP do all this only to stay in their religious career and not be transferred or suspended by a politicised hierarchy in Rome.-Lionel Andrades


No priest in Rome will give his telephone number


MARCH 27, 2015

Fr.Joseph Kramer and the FSSP priests in Rome agree with me : he has to say there are exceptions to the dogma, he has to use an irrational premise and inference to interpret Vatican Council II

MARCH 27, 2015

Fr.Joseph Kramer and the FSSP priests in Rome agree with me : he has to say there are exceptions to the dogma, he has to use an irrational premise and inference to interpret Vatican Council II

 AUGUST 29, 2012

 DECEMBER 9, 2015

The present traditional Latin Mass is modernist

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