In her Letters to relatives in 1969 and after, Sr. Lucia mentions the diabolical disorientation in the world.1 She mentions 'the disorientation of the times' .But Out Lady does not mention 'false doctrines' in Vatican Council II created with an irrational premise and which can be avoided today. 'The devil has deceived souls and now there are 'blind men leading blind men', says Suzanne Pearson quoting Sr. Lucia.
Let us review the two column approach here before I get to the point I want to make.
Would you interpret Vatican Council II with the right hand side or left hand side column?
Would you interpret Vatican Council II with the right hand side or left hand side column?
LEFT HAND SIDE COLUMN - RIGHT HAND SIDE COLUMN
All salvation referred to in Vatican Council II i.e saved in invincible ignorance (LG 16), imperfect communion with the Church (UR 3),seeds of the Word (AG 11), good and holy things in other religions (NA 2) etc are either:
implicit or explicit for us.
hypothetical or known in reality.
invisible or visible in the flesh.
dejure ( in principle) or defacto ( in fact ).
subjective or objective
So one can choose from the left hand side or the right hand side column.
n.
n.
If the right hand side column is chosen then Vatican Council II contradicts the dogma extra ecclesiam nulla salus, the Syllabus of Errors and Tradition in general on other religions and Christian communities and churches. There are known exceptions in 2017 to the dogma on exclusive salvation in the Catholic Church. The dead- saved are 'visible'.
If the left hand side column is chosen then Vatican Council II does not contradict extra ecclesiam nulla salus, nor Tradition on other religions and Christian communities and churches.
Most people interpret Vatican Council II with the right hand side values.
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After 1965 Vatican Council II was being interpreted with the right hand side column, the irrational column.The mainstream media and Catholic liberals like Fr. Hans Kung s.j used the irrational column. Since this irrationality was the norm in the Letter of the Holy Office 1949 in the Fr. Leonard Feeney case.The 'dogma of the faith' was changed and lost.
After 1965 they could have chosen to interpret Vatican Council II with the blue columm but this did not happen.
At none of the apparitions of Our Lady was she able to explain this problem and its solution to any of the seers.The right hand side column results in 'false doctrines' a disorientation in the Church and blind men leading blind men.
After 1965 they could have chosen to interpret Vatican Council II with the blue columm but this did not happen.
At none of the apparitions of Our Lady was she able to explain this problem and its solution to any of the seers.The right hand side column results in 'false doctrines' a disorientation in the Church and blind men leading blind men.
Why did Our Lady not tell the seers about this aspect of Vatican Council II. Was it because the new theology was false but also complicated.It would have been complicated to explain it to the young seers.Then it was being supported by the magisterium,popes and cardinals, but also traditionalists and conservative Catholics.How could she explain the error to all of them? I am aware how even now how hard it is for them to accept what I write. Cardinal Ottaviani and Archbishop Lefebvre were interpreting Vatican Council II with the right hand column. Pope John XXIII and Pope Paul VI made the same mistake. This was a mistake of the 'upper hierarchy of the Church' too which Suzanna Pearson refers to.Even Padre Pio does not talk about it.
I have been writing on this issue for over 20 years,initially through e-mails and letters and then through my blog and the internet.It is clear that what I write about is not popular. Neither the lay Catholics or the ecclesiastics want to accept it.There is a diabolical disorientation.
Cardinal Ratzinger supported the error.Intentionally or unintentionally in March 2016 he did not correct the mistake.Instead he supported the mistake in public and he was the spokesman for the Third Secret at Fatima.
The dogma of the faith will be lost except in Fatima. John Salza agrees that the dogma of the faith refers to extra ecclesiam nulla salus. This is our private opinion.Salza has written a book and many articles and has given talks.Yet he finds it difficult to accept what I write.It is hard for him to accept that every one, popes, cardinals, apologists and hundreds of thousands of people were wrong and that I am correct. Also even if I was correct why did not any one mention this before, he wonders like many others.He could say,'not even Our Lady'.
Malachi Martin and Fr. Nicholas Gruner did not know, like John Salza, that Vatican Council II could have been interpreted with the blue column.Now that Chris Ferrara, Michael Matt and John Salza know about it they still have nothing to say.A few years have passed.
The error had come into the Church officially with the 1949 Letter of the Holy Office ,Pope John XIII and Pope Pius XII overlooked the error.Even Pope John Paul II interpreted Vatican Council II with the red hand column and did not seem aware of the alternative choice.
Our Lady did not explain this issue in detail to also Fr. Stefano Gobbi of the Marian Movement of Priests.
Here are the two columns again.
COLUMN A or COLUMN B
Our Lady did not mention this issue since it was too complicated to explain.It was hard for many to understand it. Then popes and cardinals do not welcome the conclusion. Neither do the lay people welcome it as if there is a diabolical disorientation in the Church.
Our Lady did not explain this issue in detail to also Fr. Stefano Gobbi of the Marian Movement of Priests.
Here are the two columns again.
All salvation referred to in Vatican Council II i.e being saved with the seeds of the Word (AG 11), invincible ignorance (LG 16), imperfect communion with the Church (UR 3), good and holy things in other religions (NA 2) can be interpreted with COLUMN A or COLUMN B
COLUMN A
Implicit or us.
hypothetical for us.
invisible.
dejure (in principle).
subjective.
COLUMN B
explicit for us.
known in reality.
visible in the flesh.
defacto (in fact).
objective.
If COLUMN B is chosen then Vatican Council II contradicts the dogma extra ecclesiam nulla salus, the Syllabus of Errors and Tradition.There are known exceptions. The dead-saved are visible. This is an irrational and common interpretation of Vatican Council II.
If COLUMN A is chosen in the interpretation then Vatican Council II does not contradict the dogma extra ecclesiam nulla salus and Tradition.The Catholic Church's teaching on other religions and Christians communities and churches is the same before and after Vatican Council II.2
Our Lady did not mention this issue since it was too complicated to explain.It was hard for many to understand it. Then popes and cardinals do not welcome the conclusion. Neither do the lay people welcome it as if there is a diabolical disorientation in the Church.
-Lionel Andrades
1.
Fatima and the Diabolical Disorientation July 15, 2017 http://isoc.ws/
2.
http://eucharistandmission.blogspot.it/2014/04/cardinal-luiz-ladaria-sj-and-pope.html
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At ISOC Suzanne Pearson and Judith Sharpe are unaware of Vatican Council II (Feeneyite) : Malachi Martin and Nicholas Gruner were also using the irrational premise http://eucharistandmission.blogspot.it/2017/07/at-isoc-suzanne-pearson-and-judith.html
July 20, 2017
Fr.Nicholas Gruner and John Vennari did not know
http://eucharistandmission.blogspot.it/2017/07/frnicholas-gruner-and-john-vennari-did_20.html
July 20, 2017
Did Pope Benedict intentionally not tell Archbishop Marcel Lefebvre that Vatican Council II was not a rupture with the strict interpretation of EENS ?
http://eucharistandmission.blogspot.it/2017/07/did-pope-benedict-intentionally-not_20.html
July 20, 2017
It was the Archbishop of Boston Cardinal Richard Cushing who was in heresy and not Fr.Leonard Feeney
http://eucharistandmission.blogspot.it/2017/07/it-was-archbishop-of-boston-cardinal_20.html
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July 8, 2014
There are Catholic religious and lay persons who use the the left hand side column in the interpretation of magisterial text
http://eucharistandmission.blogspot.it/2014/06/there-are-catholic-religious-and-lay.html#links
http://eucharistandmission.blogspot.it/2014/06/there-are-catholic-religious-and-lay.html#links
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