FROM THE cmtv WEBSITE
POPE FRANCIS: SSPX MUST ACCEPT VATICAN COUNCIL II AND THE NEW MASS
Cdl. Müller: "On May 20, 2017, the Sovereign Pontiff approved these decisions"
ROME (ChurchMilitant.com) - Pope Francis is requiring that the Society of St. Pius X (SSPX) accept an orthodox interpretation of Vatican Council II and the validity of the new Mass in order to be reunited with the Catholic Church.
Lionel: False. Pope Francis wants the SSPX to accept an un-orthodox interpretation of Vatican Council II instead of the available orthodox one. He wants the SSPX to interpret Vatican Council II with irrational Cushingism instead of rational and traditional Feeneyism.
He also wants them to offer the Old and New Mass with the theology of Cushiningism which is a rupture with the theology of the past.
They are correct in rejection this.
Michael Voris unfortunately has compromised. He interprets Vatican Council II like Pope Francis and Pope Benedict, with Cushingism.So he would agree with Pope Benedict's statement in March 2016. He said that Vatican Council II (he meant Cushingite Vatican Council II) was ' a development' and so the dogma extra ecclesiam nulla salus(EENS) was no more like it was for the missionaries in the 16th century. This is public heresy and there was no criticism from Church Militant TV.
On the Vortex of CMTV, 'lies and falsehoods' are no more 'trapped'.Non controversial subjects are discussed which would not offend the Archbishop of Detroit and the Jewish Left.
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According to a French media report published July 1, the SSPX has received a letter from Cdl. Gerhard Müller, then prefect of the Congregation for the Doctrine of the Faith (CDF), reminding them that their reunion with the Catholic Church is based on the following conditions:
- Adherence to the profession of faith written under Pope St. John Paul II in 1988 ( Lionel: The 1988 Profession of Faith states, ' I confess one baptism for the forgiveness of sins '.This has become controversial since there can be two interpretations.One interpretation is without an irrational premise and the other is with it.One is Feeneyite and the other is Cushingite. I would use the Feeneyite version.The CDF and the two popes use the Cushingite version which is irrational and the conclusion is non traditional. 1 Similarly the Oath of Fidelity is 'loaded'. OATH OF FIDELITY ON ASSUMING AN OFFICE TO BE EXERCISED IN THE NAME OF THE CHURCHThe Oath of Fidelity on Assuming an Office states'With Christian obedience I shall follow what the Bishops, as authentic doctors and teachers of the faith, declare, or what they, as those who govern the Church, establish. I shall also faithfully assist the diocesan Bishops, so that the apostolic activity, exercised in the name and by mandate of the Church, may be carried out in communion with the Church'. Lionel:This passage from the Oath of Fidelty calls for obedience to Bishops and others who interpret magisterial documents with irrational Cushingism. In other words obedience to heresy is a requirement in the Church. 2
- Explicit acceptance of teachings from Vatican Council II and the post-conciliar period (Lionel : The SSPX can explicitly accept Vatican Council II without the irrational premise; without assuming hypothetical cases are objective in 2017.They could accept a Feeneyite Vatican Council II. But this would be rejected by the Vatican.Since this would be an orthodox interpretation of Vatican Council II in harmony with the Syllabus of Errors and the dogma EENS( Feeneyite) ).
- Recognition of the validity and legitimacy of the New Rite of Mass and sacraments (Lionel: Bishop Fellay has recognised the validity of the Novus Ordo Mass, it is the Sacrifice of Jesus re-enacted for him.He is really objecting to the Cushingite theology of the Mass, which the CMTV and the Archdiocese of Detroit have no problems with.This is 'the false church' within the Catholic Church.This is the Church of Nice which Michael Voris has accepted).
Cardinal Müller says these conditions were contained in the "Doctrinal Declaration" given to the SSPX last year during a meeting on June 13, 2016. He relates that these same conditions were presented by him with the "approval of the Sovereign Pontiff" to his congregation on May 10 and were approved at that time by a "unanimous decision of all members" of the CDF. He further notes the "Sovereign Pontiff approved these decisions" of the CDF on May 20.
(Lionel: He has approved that all magisterial documents be interpreted with the philosophy and theology of Cushingism instead of Feeneyism.Those priests who interpret magisterial documents with Feeneyism will be punished. They will also be threatened by the Jewish Left.)
Cardinal Müller's five-year term as head of the CDF ended July 2. On June 27, however, while still in charge of the CDF, he sent a letter with the papally approved terms of reunion to Bp. Bernard Fellay, head of the SSPX. The cardinal's letter has subsequently been circulated to all members of the group.
The SSPX has rejected similar terms of reunification with Rome in 2012 and in 2016.
(Lionel:In 2012 in the General Chapter Statement the SSPX approved Feeneyite EENS which was rejected by Ecclesia Dei and the CDF. In March 2016 Pope Benedict XVI in public rejected the 2012 doctrinal statement of the SSPX.)
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It is speculated that the group will also reject these conditions.
Lionel: It can be speculated that the group will affirm Vatican Council II without the irrational premise, with Feeneyism, which is traditional and rational. In this way they will meet the requirement to accept Vatican Council II. The doctrinal dialogue can resume unless of course the Vatican is once again, as in 2012, not willing to interpret magisterial documents with traditional Feeneyite theology and philosophy.
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The SSPX claims Vatican Council II is full of doctrinal errors, and these errors are being universally perpetuated by all subsequent popes and the Magisterium.
Lionel : The basic error is Cushingism as a theology and philosophy. The error is not permanent and fixed. It can be avoided.It can be replaced with Feeneyism in which hypothetical and theoretical cases are not assumed to be explicit and objective in the present times, for example the last 50 years.
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On its website FAQ, SSPX questions many doctrinal points of Vatican Council II, many teachings of all the popes since then and even the Catechism of the Catholic Church.
Lionel: It is based on irrational Cushingism which was accepted by Archbishop Lefebvre. He did not know that Vatican Council II can be interpreted with Feeneyism. Cardinal Ratzinger and Pope John Paul II did not tell Archbishop Lefebvre about this , if they knew about it.
This can be seen on the SSPX website.
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The SSPX even claims the Novus Ordo Mass is intrinsically evil, and no one should ever go to a Mass unless it's in the Latin Rite — and only then if it's offered by an SSPX priest. This recent video on the society's website clearly states their long-held position in this regard.
(Lionel: Bishop Fellay has rejected this position and clarified it. He is referring to the theology of the Novus Ordo Mass, Cushingism, which is evil. However he is not aware that there still is the New Theology, which the SSPX accepts when they offer Mass. Archbishop Lefebvre accepted the Letter of the Holy Office 1949 and so also the New Theology based on visible- for- us baptism of desire and blood and physically visible , being saved in invincible ignorance. This is irrational.Since there are no such visible cases upon which to build a new theology.)
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These conditions of accepting an orthodox understanding of Vatican Council II and the validity of the ordinary form of the Roman rite are not new.
(Lionel: In the past too CMTV has been corrected on this point. There is no comment or correction from them.They just ignore what I say. They do not make the distinction between Cushingism and Feeneyism. Since they do not want to admit that the magisterium has made a mistake.)
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In March 2009, Pope Benedict XVI wrote a letter, explaining the SSPX separation is doctrinal in nature and not merely canonical or legal, as the SSPX would have the public believe.
(Lionel: He wants them to accept his New Theology based on Cushingism. Summorusm Pontificum approved the Latin Mass. However it was understood that the Tridentine Rite Mass has to be offered with the new ecclesiology which was a rupture with that of the magisterium of the 16th century.This is doctrinally correct for Pope Benedict as it was for Fr.Karl Rahner, Fr.Hans Kung and his other German friends and colleagues.
Th SSPX does well to reject it. All Catholics in good conscience should reject it.)
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Benedict writes:
The fact that the Society of Saint Pius X does not possess a canonical status in the Church is not, in the end, based on disciplinary but on doctrinal reasons. ... (Lionel: Correct. They will not accept Vatican Council II ( Cushingite) which is heretical, non traditional and irrational.God bless them for this).In order to make this clear once again: Until the doctrinal questions are clarified, the society has no canonical status in the Church, and its ministers — even though they have been freed of the ecclesiastical penalty — do not legitimately exercise any ministry in the Church. ... In light of this situation, it is my intention henceforth to join the Pontifical Commission Ecclesia Dei — the body which has been competent since 1988 for those communities and persons who, coming from the Society of Saint Pius X or from similar groups, wish to return to full communion with the Pope — to the Congregation for the Doctrine of the Faith.(Lionel: He does not state that the CDF must doctrinally accept Feeneyite Vatican Council II. Even in March 2016 he did not state that he personally was willing to affirm Vatican Council II( Feeneyite) which would not be ' a development' with respect to EENS according to the 16th century missionaries) This will make it clear that the problems now to be addressed are essentially doctrinal in nature and concern primarily the acceptance of the Second Vatican Council and the post-conciliar magisterium of the Popes. (emphasis added)(Lionel: Agreed. I affirm Vatican Council II ( Feeneyite). I affirm all magisterial documents with Feeneyism. I am waiting for the heretical popes to do the same.I am waiting for the heretical CMTV to sort out their doctrinal issue among themself and be faithful to Jesus Christ).
The Holy Father(who is a Cushingite) continues:
The Church's teaching authority cannot be frozen in the year 1962 — this must be quite clear to the society. (Lionel: Rubbish. This is not the issue.Cushingism precedes Vatican Council II and it was there in the 1949 Letter of the Holy Office. Cardinal Ratzinger instead of correcting the error as Prefect of the Congregation for the Doctrine of the Faith promoted it.) But some of those who put themselves forward as great defenders of the council also need to be reminded that Vatican Council II embraces the entire doctrinal history of the Church.(Lionel: False. Vatican Council II ( Cushingite) is a rupture.Vatican Council II( Feeneyite) would be in harmony with 'the doctrinal history of the Church' in particular the dogma EENS as it was interpreted by St.Robert Bellarmine, St.Francis Xavier and St.Ignatius of Loyola.It would be in harmonyw with the Syllabus of Errors of Pope Pius IX.) Anyone who wishes to be obedient to the council has to accept the Faith professed over the centuries and cannot sever the roots from which the tree draws its life.(Lionel: This would also apply to Cushingite Pope Francis and Pope Benedict and the ecclesiastics as the Vatican today)
https://www.churchmilitant.com/news/article/pope-francis-sspx-must-accept-vatican-ii-and-the-new-mass
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