Thursday, July 6, 2017

Everything hangs on invisible for us baptism of desire : Vatican Council II changes

 


Everything hangs on invisible for us baptism of desire : Vatican Council II changes
If I would meet Cardinal Luiz Ladaria S.j I would ask him three questions, if I could.
1.The references to the baptism of desire (BOD) is always to physically invisible cases? There are no known people saved with the baptism of desire in 2017.
2. Hypothetical cases in general referred to in Vatican Council II are not physically visible in 2017? We cannot meet someone saved with 'seeds of the Word'(AG 11), 'elements of sanctification and truth' (LG 8) or 'invincible ignorance' and 'a good conscience' ( LG 16).
3.There would have to be explicit cases; known people saved outside the Church, with 'faith and baptism' (AG 7)for there to be exceptions to the dogma extra ecclesiam nulla salus (EENS) ? There are no references to objective cases in the present times mentioned in Vatican Council II.
That's all.
It changes the doctrinal understanding which the Congregation for the Doctrine of the Faith and the two living popes have of Vatican Council II.
They are now surprised.While the SSPX in principle can affirm Vatican Council II interpreted in this way. Vatican Council II becomes Feeneyite.It becomes traditionalist.
The new set rules for discussing doctrine are finished.The accepted rules said hypothetical cases are physically invisible and there are known people saved without the baptism of water in the Catholic Church. We now know this is false.This theory no more applies.Possibilities are not living people and possibilities cannot be exceptions to the dogma EENS in 2017.
Vatican Council II is no more a rupture with Tradition.Any theology which is based upon visible- for- us baptism of desire, has to be rejected.The popes overlooked a mistake in simple philosophy.-Lionel Andrades

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