Thursday, July 20, 2017

Fr.Nicholas Gruner and John Vennari did not know

In a previous post I mentioned that Fr.Nicholas Gruner did not know about Vatican Council II (Feeneyite). He did not know that with Vatican Council II( Feeneyite) the Council supported the dogma extra ecclesiam nulla salus(EENS) and the Syllabus of Errors.
Similarly Chris Ferrara when he wrote his book The Great Facade he did not know that by switiching the interpretation of the baptism of desire(BOD) for example, you can get a completely different interpretation of EENS. BOD can be interpreted as being visible or invisible, explicit or implicit and the interpretation of the Council is one of continuity or rupture with the past.
Similarly when Ralph Martin wrote his books on evangelisation and salvation he did not know that Vatican Council II was Feeneyite and that his interpretation of the Council was irrational and Cushingite.
It means all these 50 years every one had the wrong interpretation of Vatican Council II.They were using the irrational premise. They assumed invisible for us baptism of desire was excplicit. They also concluded that BOD excluded the baptism of water in the Church.So BOD and I.I (LG 16, AG 7, LG 14 etc) were explicit
exceptions to Tradition for them. They wrongly placed the fault on Vatican Council II.

Fr.Nicholas Gruner and John Vennari could never understand this.If Chris Ferrara understands it today he is not saying anything.Soon there will be another of his reports on something Pope Francis has said or done, and he will ignore again what I have written here.
Similarly Ralph Martin and Robert Fastiggi , professors of theology at the Sacred Heart Major Seminary in Detroit, agree that there are no visible for us cases of BOD and I.I in 2017. So there is nothing in Vatican Council II to contradict the dogma EENS as it was known to the missionaries in the 16th century.However they still have to say directly that the two living popes have made an objective mistake. They have violated the Principle of Non Contradiction as have the traditionalits and sedevacantists.
Then so much of Vatican Council II was based on this error.In principle hypothetical cases were assumed to be objective.They are mentioned in the text - LG 16, LG 8, LG 14, UR 3, NA 2, GS 22, AG 7, AG 11 etc.
Cardinal Ottaviani and Archbishop Lefebvre said nothing.Mons. Clifford Fenton, Ludwig Ott and Fr.William Most said nothing.They did not ask themselves how can invisible people be visible exceptions to Feeneyite EENS.
So the Council has been built on human error.It is heretical. It is not simply non traditional and irrational.1
-Lionel Andrades


July 18, 2017
Everyone agrees Vatican Council II has a major philosophical mistake

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