Monday, July 3, 2017

FSSP church Santissima Trinita dei Pelligrini : new understanding of Nicene Creed

Comments from the two reports on Gloria TV
 
So the Mass was held(yesterday Sunday morning) and there was no clarification or denial from Fr.Joseph Kramer FSSP, the Partish Priest at Santissima Trinita dei Pelligrini.
In catechism classes he will continue to teach children an irrationality and so Vatican Council II is a rupture with Feeneyite extra ecclesiam nulla salus. This is what he will preach and teach and so remain poltically correct and be able to offer the Tridentine Rite Mass in Rome.
With this compromise the Vatican allows him to offer the Latin Mass.
So he promotes mortal sins of faith. He changes the Nicene Creed, rejects the dogma EENS, interprets Vatican Council II with Cushingism instead of Feeneyism and stays afloat.No lay parishioner protests. There are no objections from those who attend this type of Traditional Latin Mass which has the same ecclesiology as the Novus Ordo Mass.
So much for all the propaganda on the Latin Mass.This Mass, ad orientem or with communion in the hand, does not have the same ecclesiology as the Traditional Latin Mass, for example, in the 16th century. This is why the liberals allow the FSSP to offer it.It is an innovation and a rupture with Tradition. The priest is in mortal sin.
If the priest interpreted the Nicene Creed, EENS, Vatican Council II and the Catechisms with the old ecclesiology, without the irratiional premise, without the new theology; Cushingite theology, and made it known in public, the Vatican would not allow him to offer the Tridentine Rite Mass. Since it would be the authentic and original 'Mass of the centuries'.







Fr.Joseph Kramer FSSP and the FSSP priests interpret magisterial documents with the same factual error made by Cardinal Luiz Ladaria S.J in two theological papers of the ITC. See link below.
So the FSSP traditionalists are in line with the liberal Jesuits who make up the present magisterium of the Catholic Church.
It is with the use of the factual errors that VCII is projected as a rupture with the dogma EENS and this is taught to Catholic children in Catechism and religion classes in Rome and rest of the world. This was the teaching for children approved by Cardinal Ladaria and Cardinal Muller and the two living popes.
Where are the priests who will teach children catechism without the factual errors of the new Prefect of the CDF ? Not the FSSP! Even the SSPX and the Franciscans of the Immaculate are using the same irrational reasoning as Cardinal Ladaria.

1.Without the irrational premise Vatican Council II and the dogma EENS would be saying that all non Catholics in Rome need to convert into the Catholic Church as members to avoid the fires of Hell (AG 7, LG 14).
2.Also they would be telling the children that most people are on the way to Hell since they die without 'faith and baptism'(AG 7, LG 14).
3.They would be telling the children that LG 16, LG 8, UR 3, NA 2, GS 22 etc refer to hypothetical cases which are not exceptions to Feeneyite EENS. So there is no development in Vatican Council II with reference to the dogma EENS as it was known to the missionaries in the 16th century.Pope Benedict XVI was wrong in March 2016.

This was would be Catholic teaching. Instead now there is a false- church version, the politically correct version of popes Benedict and Francis.


Cardinal Luiz Ladaria S.j made factual errors in two ITC theological papers which were politically correct
Cardinal Luiz Ladaria S.j made factual errors in two ITC theological papers which were politically correct
https://gloria.tv/article/1V1tXzqiZ1AoBevaC3q81yvU4

TERMS EXPLAINED
Feeneyism: It is the old theology and philosophical reaoning which says there are no known exceptions past or present, to the dogma EENS.There are no explicit cases to contradict the traditional interpretation of EENS.
Cushingism: It is the new theology and philosophical reasoning, which assumes there are known exceptions, past and present, to the dogma EENS, on the need for all to formally enter the Church.It assumes that the baptism of desire etc are not hypothetical but objectively known.In principle hypothetical cases are objective in the present times.
Baptism of Desire (Feeneyite): It refers to the hypothetical case of an unknown catechumen who desires the baptism of water but dies before he receives it and is saved. Since this is an invisible case in our reality it is not relevant to the dogma EENS.
Baptism of Desire (Cushingite): It refers to the known case of a catechumen who desires the baptism of water but dies before he receives it and is saved. Since this is a visible case or the SSPX it is relevant to the dogma EENS.
Invincible Ignorance ( Feeneyite): This refers to the hypothetical case of someone allegedly saved without the baptism of water in the Catholic Church, since he was in ignorance.
Invincible Ignorance (Cushingite): This refers to the explicit case of someone allegedly saved without the baptism of water in the Catholic Church, since he was in ignorance.Since it is an exception to the dogma EENS it is assumed to be objectively known in particular cases.This reasoning is irrational.
Council of Florence: One of the three Councils which defined the dogma EENS.It did not mention any exceptions.It did not mention the baptism of desire. It was Feeneyite.
Liberal theologians: They reinterpreted the baptism of desire and being saved in invincible ignorance, as objective cases, known in the present times.
Vatican Council II (Cushingite): It refers to the interpretation of Vatican Council II with Cushingism.LG 16, LG 8, UR 3, NA 2 etc refer not to hypothetical but known cases in the present times. So Vatican Council II emerges as a break with the dogma EENS.
Vatican Council II (Feeneyite): It refers to the interpretation of Vatican Council II with Feeneyism.LG 16, LG 8, UR 3, NA 2 etc refer to hypothetical cases, which are unknown personally in the present times.So Vatican Council II is not a break with EENS, the Syllabus of Errors, ecumenism of return, the Nicene Creed ( Feeneyite-one baptism),the teaching on the Social Reign of Christ the King over all political legislation and the non separation of Church and State( since all need to convert into the Church to avoid Hell).
Letter of the Holy Office 1949 to the Archbishop of Boston.: It assumed hypothetical cases were defacto known in the present times. So it presented the baptism of desire etc as an explicit exception, to the traditional interpretation of the dogma EENS.It censured Fr.Leonard Feeney and the St.Benedict Center.Since they did not assume that the baptism of desire referred to a visible instead of invisible case.The Letter made the baptism of desire etc relevant to EENs.From the second part of this Letter has emerged the New Theology.
Letter of the Holy Office 1949 ( Feeneyite). It means accepting the Letter as Feeneyite based on the first part .It supports Fr. Leonard Feeney of Boston.The traditional interpretatiion of the dogma EENS does not mention any exceptions.
Letter of the Holy Office ( Cushingite). It is based on the second part of the Letter.It rejects the traditional interpretation of EENS. Since it considers the baptism of desire ( Cushingite-explicit) and being saved in invincible ignorance ( Cushingite-explicit cases) as being exceptions to EENS ( Feeneyite).It worngly assumes hypothetical cases are objectively visible and so they are exceptions to the first part of the Letter.
Baltimore Catechism: It assumed that the desire for the baptism of an unknown catechumen, who dies before receiving it and was saved, was a baptism like the baptism of water. So it was placed in the Baptism Section of the catechism. In other words it was wrongly assumed that the baptism of desire is visible and repeatable like the baptism of water or that we can administer it like the baptism of water.(The Baltimore Catechism is accepted with the confusion).
Catechism of Pope X: It followed the Baltimore Catechism and placed the baptism of desire in the Baptism Section.
Nicene Creed ( Cushingite) ; It says 'I believe in one baptism for the forgiveness of sins' and means there are more than three known baptisms. They are water, blood, desire, seeds of the Word etc.
Nicene Creed ( Feeneyite): It says 'I believe in one baptism for the forgiveness of sins and means there is one known baptism the baptism of water.
New Theology: It refers to the new theology in the Catholic Church based on hypothetical cases being objective in the present times.So it eliminates the dogma EENS.With the dogma EENS made obsolete the ecclesiology of the Church changes. There is a new ecclesiology which is a break with Tradition.
Extra Ecclesiam Nulla Salus ( Cushingite): .It refers to the dogma but with exceptions.All do not need to defacto convert into the Church in the present times, since there are exceptions.
Extra Ecclesiam Nulla Salus ( Feeneyite): It refers to the dogma as it was interpreted over the centuries.There are no known exceptions to all needing to formally enter the Church, with faith and baptism, to avoid Hell.
Catechism of the Catholic Church ( Cushingite): CCC 1257 contradicts the Principle of Non Contraduction. Also CCC 848 is based on the new theology and so is a rupture with the dogma EENS( Feeneyite).
Catechism of the Catholic Church ( Feeneyite): CCC 1257 does not contradict the Principle of Non Contradiction since there are no known exceptions to all needing the baptism of water for salvation. There are no known exceptions, since God is not limited to the Sacraments.
When CCC 846 states all who are saved are saved through Jesus and the Church,CCC 846 does not contradict the dogmatic teaching on all needin to formally enter the Church. CCC 846 does not contradict Ad Gentes 7 which states all need faith and baptism for salvatioon.

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