Monday, July 24, 2017

Joint statement on Vatican Council II ( Feeneyite ) needed from Bishop Donald Sanborn and Prof. Robert Fastiggi and Ralph Martin

Ralph Martin and Robert Fastiggi, professors of theology at the Sacred Heart Major Seminary,Detroit,accept all magisterial documents, but with the theology of Cushingism.This is the wide spread Arian- like heresy in the Church.It makes Vatican Council II a rupture with Tradition. Without this Cushingite theology the Council has a continuity with the past.
They both now agree that hypothetical and invisible cases of the baptism of desire(BOD), and blood(BOB) and being saved in invincible ignorance of the Gospel through no fault of one own(I.I) are not physically visible cases in 2017.Invisible people are not visible.So they cannot be exceptions to the dogma extra ecclesiam nulla salus(EENS).They never were.
A theoretical possibility or hypothesis is not a concrete and known exception in the present times to all needing to be members of the Catholic Church to avoid the fires of Hell.
The two professors indicate by their silence, in e-mail communication I have with them, that the present magisterium has made an objective mistake.Since the magisterium accepts the Cushingite theology, the New Theology, based on BOD, BOB and I.I being visible exceptions to the dogma EENS.EENS as it was known to the missionaries in the 16th century.

Ralph Martin

Ralph Martin

Ralph Martin is president of Renewal Ministries, an organization devoted to Catholic renewal and evangelization. Ralph also hosts The Choices We Face, a widely viewed weekly Catholic television and radio program distributed throughout the world.
Ralph holds a doctorate in theology from the Pontifical University of St. Thomas (Angelicum) in Rome and is a professor and the director of Graduate Theology Programs in the New Evangelization at Sacred Heart Major Seminary in the Archdiocese of Detroit. He was named by Pope Benedict XVI as a Consultor to the Pontifical Council for the New Evangelization and was also appointed as a “peritus” to the Synod on the New Evangelization in October of 2012.
Ralph is the author of a number of books, the most recent of which are The Urgency of the New Evangelization: Answering the Call, The Fulfillment of All Desire: A Guidebook for the Journey to God Based on the Wisdom of the Saints, and Will Many Be Saved? What Vatican II Actually Teaches and Its Implications for the New Evangelization. He and his wife Anne have six children and sixteen grandchildren and reside in Ann Arbor, Michigan.
The magisterium has made a mistake, an objective mistake, a factual mistake.
Ralph Martin and Robert Fastiggi will not directly say the magisterium, the popes, have made a mistake and neither will they defend the New Theology and the magisterium.They keep silent and read what I write.
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Ralph Martin is known for his books on evangelisation and salvation and Robert Fastiggi for his apologetics.
Prof.Robert Fastiggi told Bishop Donald Sanborn that he needs to come out of sedevacantism, he was in schism and in mortal sin. This was during the ecclesiology debate they had which can be watched on Youtube(see beloew).He wanted the bishop to accept Vatican Council II as the magisterium interprets it-with Cushingite theology!
Bishop Sanborn says that he wants to enter the Church as an ordinary but Vatican Council II is an issue.His sedevacantism is based on Vatican Council II. Unknown to him, he is really referring to Cushingite Vatican Council II. He says Vatican Council II contradicts Tradition.Note,Sanborn is also a Cushingite like Fastiggi and Martin. They know only one interpretation of the Council, the irrational one.
For Bishop Sanborn the popes and the Magisterium are wrong on Vatican Council II. So he cannot accept them or the Council at this time.
Note, he is still referring to Vatican Council II Cushingite and not Vatican Council II (Feeneyite) which avoid the 'invisible-visible premise'.
There was no conception of Vatican Council II Feeneyite among them during this debate a few years back.
Now however Robert Fastiggi and Ralph Martin know that the magisterium has made a mistake in the interpretation of Vatican Council II. They also accepted the Council with this mistake.While Bishop Sanborn correctly rejected this version of the Council.
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At Detroit they are still teaching Cushingite theology in the interpretation of Vatican Council II. This is heresy but it is overlooked since this is the common apostasy in the Church.The heresy comes from 'the top'.
But the reality is still there.They cannot deny that invisible BOD, BOB and I.I is not visible.So it canot be a visible  exception to the dogma EENS, as it was known to the missionaries in the 16th century. Pope Benedict XVI blatantly confirmed this magisterial error in March 2016 in the Avvenire interview.
So if they personally would avoid this error, for Martin and Fastiggi, there would be nothing in Vatican Council II to contradict the dogma EENS as it was known to the magisterium in the 16th century.
Vatican Council II then would also not be an exception to the dogma EENS for Bishop Sanborn. They could ask him to make an appointment with the local bishop and announce his acceptance of Vatican Council II( Feeneyite).
May be they could have another debate on Ecclesiology but this time with Vatican Council II without the irrational premise.
If Vatican Council II(Feeneyite) is accepted by Bishop Sanborn, then  Robert Fastiggi can no more say that Bishop Sanborn is in schism and in mortal sin. Instead he would have to ask the Congregation for the Doctrine of the Faith,Vatican  to accept Vatican Council II ( Feeneyite), set an example for all, and not promote heresy and mortal sin.
He could begin with his own Archbishop. He could point out to the Archbishop of Detroit that the archdiocese interprets Vatican Council II with an irratioinal premise. The conclusion is heretical.They are in a split with the magisterium of the past.
Tough job! Probably Archbishop Allen H.Vigneron already knows and doesn't care. This is a political issue. He  has to support the Left and the Left supports Cushingism,it always has.
However Robert Fastiggi and Ralph Martin along with Bishop Sanborn and Fr. Anthony Cekada could jointly agree that invisible cases of BOD, BOB and I.I cannot be objective exceptions to the dogma EENS in 2017.
They can jointly issue a statement and agree on the obvious. LG 8,LG 14, LG 16, UR 3, NA 2, GS 22, AG 7, AG 11 etc refer to hypothetical cases, they are theoretical possibilities, they are not actual people known to be saved outside the Church. So they do not contradict the dogma EENS as it was known to the missionaries in the 16th century.They could all agree on this.-Lionel Andrades

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